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lkrupp said:

Rayz2016 said:

avon b7 said:

Apple TV was without a doubt the worst Apple product I ever bought. 

Odd that you don’t actually like Apple kit, but keep buying it. ߤ䦬t;/div>

Avon b7’s charade was up a long time ago. We all know who and what it is, and it ain’t an Apple kit owner. 

So avon b7 doesn't own a lot of Apple gear. So what?

Living almost entirely within Apple's ecosystem, I tend to lose touch with what other suppliers are doing. I actually quite enjoy reading the perspectives of people who are not necessarily Apple fans, because by virtue of being free from the pro-Apple bias that affects my decision making, they're able to be more objective when assessing alternatives.

So far that perspective hasn't led me out of the walled garden, but it has given me points of comparison for assessing whether my expectations of certain Apple products are realistic. I like that.

StrangeDays said:

[...] And whether this guy wants to admit it or not, the entertainment industry which owns the movies licenses does indeed consider ripping of DVDs to be piracy as they encrypted it with CSS to prevent it. Again, barking up the wrong tree when complaining “But Apple!” Typical tho. 

Oh fer the love of reading comprehension... The issue has nothing to do with copy protection. Forget the damn DVDs.

Download an instructional video. Upload your latest iMovie epic. Do anything that results in the video -- LEGAL video -- being on your computer but not in the iTunes Store. That computer does only one thing: run iTunes. Home Sharing is on and the Apple TV sees that library. Now ask the Apple TV to find something in that library. It doesn't work, period. You obviously haven't tried it or you would know that, so I don't know how you can claim you don't have that problem.

Search problems may be a third-party issue in the case of non-Apple streaming services, but this process is 100% Apple products using Apple software in the manner intended by Apple. It's either broken or a rather glaring deliberate omission with no obvious reason.

As for the interface of various apps, fine -- there's absolutely nothing Apple can or ever could do about it. What about the other FIVE issues I raised?

The fact that you don't seem to have similar issues suggests that either we're using it differently or that there may be solutions. If you have anything constructive to offer I'd appreciate seeing it, because I'd much rather be enjoying this thing as much as my other Apple products instead of feeling disappointed in it.

To see what this post said before i changed my mind and deleted it, please consult your local psychic.

- This message brought to you by The North American Psychic Association -- We know what you're thinking!

AppleExposed said:

A 1-poster told a veteran.

I don't understand what you mean. Told me what?

I've got no problem with being put in my place when appropriate, but I don't see how that applies in this case.

AppleExposed said:

Some people believe everything is Apples fault.

Uh, if not Apple, who *IS* responsible for the decisions about how tvOS works? One can argue that integration with the TV app is up to the service providers, but even that is subject to debate. Every single other point is 100% on Apple.

c.m.95@utexas.edu said:

1) what “locally stored” content are you referring to?  ATV is a streaming device. The only “local” content are the apps you install.

I have a Mac mini in the living room. The iTunes library on that has all the material I've created myself, ripped from DVD, and purchased and downloaded from Apple. I access that stuff via Home Sharing with the "Computers" app on the Apple TV.

I used to download everything, but the new Apple TV makes that less convenient than just leaving stuff in the "cloud." That doesn't seem to a good idea though, as titles are sometimes dropped and if they aren't downloaded they're gone forever. So far that's happened with two titles I purchased from Apple. A third title no longer shows as "purchased" on the iTunes Store even though I bought it. In all three cases having downloaded the title at the time of purchase prevented changes at Apple's end from being a problem at my end.

c.m.95@utexas.edu said:

2) Rips as in “pirated” or “copy protected content” that’s been removed of copy protection?  Don’t ever expect Apple to support anything like that. They are 100% behind content creators/owners. You need to re-adjust your expectations as that will never occur.  Your best work around is to setup a NAS and use a streaming app like Infuse or Alex.

I'm vehemently opposed to piracy, but I'm also a strong advocate of reasonable fair use terms. I refuse to accept that ripping a DVD I paid for constitutes piracy. I paid for a license, not a disc, and I'm not depriving the creator of revenue because I don't pass it along to others.

The ripped files present to tvOS the same way as content I've created myself and that from sources other than Apple. It's not something that requires additional support in any area other than "attitude." tvOS simply provides only the absolute minimum possible integration for any material that does not come from an online source. Why it treats its own Home Sharing service as a second-class citizen is beyond me.