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From The Verge article:

” It would also require Apple and Google to offer developers “equal access to interfaces, features, and development tools without cost or discrimination,” as well as allow users to remove or hide pre-installed apps.”

The acces to development tools at no cost seems especially nuts. 

mpantone said:

GetSchwifty86 said:

Does this mean Spotify et al's pricing is going to drop by 30%?

/s

I see you are being sarcastic however the real answer is that it is up to the individual developer to decide whether or not there should be any adjustment to pricing. Some apps may actually get cheaper, other apps will likely stay the same (with the developer pocketing more instead of sharing with Apple).

Note that Spotify's latest iOS app (updated this morning) now offers an in-app hyperlink to Spotify's website where one can purchase Spotify Premium. That hyperlink did not exist yesterday, just some passive-aggressive language.

Undoubtedly this will not be the last developer who makes this change to their app. You will have to examine each and every one and compare before and after pricing to see if there has been any price reduction.

I do know that some Mac app developers have differentiated pricing between Mac App Store downloads and direct downloads from the company website. It seems likely that some iPhone app developers will take advantage of these new payment policies and pricing options.

I don’t disagree, but I seem to remember some companies arguing that the “Apple Tax” made costs higher for consumers and if those companies didn’t have to pay it then they could lower pricing. I can’t recall specifically which companies/who said that, but it was a common narrative. 

I don’t have (or don’t see anyway) an option to edit posts in mobile anymore so that results in a second post. 

Is there a reason Apple can’t start charging different tiers for a developer license based on a developer’s popularity and how they monetize the app? Something similar to how it works now where free apps that don’t have IAP don’t have to pay Apple to be on the App Store but once you have an app that is successful and earning money then the dev fees go up accordingly. 

cropr said:

anonymouse said:

This so-called "law" known as the DMA, and the regulatory bodies "enforcing" it, is not actually law at all. What it is is a purported "legal" framework that erodes the very concept of law in a way that leads to lawlessness. Much is talked about the "spirit of the law" in regard to the DMA, but that's not how law works. Law works according to the letter of the law, and anything that depends on "spirit" is not actually law.

There is a major difference between the law system in the US, which is derived from UK law system of the 17th century and the European law system which is based on the Codex Napoleon.

In the US law system the letter of the law is indeed the absolute truth.  In the European law system this is less the case.  There is a concept of common sense in the European law, which translates in a different impact of any rule of law.    Just look at the disclaimer that is added to sale of any hardware.  The US disclaimer is 3 times longer than the EU version

I think that’s what the EU likes to say but I’m not sure it’s true. Look at the ruling against Meta (a company I have no love for and use none of its products). The DMA/EC essentially told Meta they needed to offer a Facebook tier that wouldn’t collect user data and Meta responded with a choice of pay and no (or minimal) data collected or use for free with data collected. Obviously the way Facebook generates money is through the use of collected data, so offering a paid tier with no data collection worked. But the EC says that isn’t enough and it seems they expect a third tier to choose from, one they don’t charge for AND that doesn’t collect data, you know, the way Facebook actually earns money. Oh, and apparently Meta will have to pay a fine if they only offer ways to use their services where they earn money.

All that is particularly “funny” when you consider that Margrethe Vestager said she would welcome a way to pay to use Facebook and not have her data collected. 

Where is the common sense in forcing a company to offer a service in a way that that company won’t earn money?