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entropys said:

This is a nice addition, the implementation is clearly a compromise with the carriers to get eSIM accepted by them.  

Which makes it funny that on the feature video we had Ive in his deadening tones calling these phones completely uncompromising.

Also, do any other dual sim phones have the one Sim tray like the Chinese iPhone version will have? Btw also a work around compromise as it is clear China did not agree to an eSIM.

I'd like to be able to buy the Chinese model because I could definitely use the dual sim feature for traveling abroad.  I'm not really sold on the eSim quite yet but it should be fine once it gets full implementations on US carriers. I'd like to see how it can be set up by simply scanning a QR code. Have to wait and see, but I think I'll go for the Max 256 in gold. I still have an iPhone 6 and it works perfectly, now that the battery was replaced, but it is probably time to upgrade.

netrox said:

You'd think that Intel with its massive revenues would have money to recruit talented engineers but they have come up with dismal results. It's time for them to re-evaluate their team of engineers.

There are lots of scientists that have created smaller dies in the lab, with a transistor gate even down to a single atom in width, but that is completely different than manufacturing chips on a commercial scale. The main problem is as they continue to shrink the node size, the costs increase astronomically and there is a limited market for those chips. There are several fabs being built currently in China that are using conventional node scales for which there is a much broader market. Shrinking the nodes to 5nm or even 3nm is not going to be commercially profitable anytime soon if ever. There are just so few applications that would require such a small chip.

Fatman said:

The SIM, a lame, outdated technology, should just go away - the way of the dodo bird and the floppy disk. Apple should eliminate not add a second slot!

Apple wanted to do that a year or so ago but got considerable push back from the carriers.

I still think it is convenient while traveling because unlike the US there are very few official carrier stores in the smaller countries. However, there are plenty of little mom and pop stores all over the place that can sell you a sim and a prepaid minutes card. With a sim you don't need to program anything unlike the theoretical sim-less phone. You just pop it in and go. Even the housekeeper in the hotel can help you with that. She'll just take off her earring and pop open the sim drawer. Pretty much all the locals are used to that method. Paperclips are not in wide usage in the rest of the world like they are in the US so if you travel abroad you should consider bringing your own. 

nunzy said:

Since when did Apple base design decisions on what foreigners want?

Many US nationals travel abroad and would like to have both their US sim and a local sim so they can continue receiving their roaming calls from the US while having the cost savings of a local sim. I know I would take advantage of that since I travel quite often. As it is now if you travel abroad you'll see plenty of people with two phones, me included. That is just a single scenario. Another is that EU customers could really benefit from dual sims because crossing the border to another country happens quite often and they could avoid expensive roaming charges. Apple would be smart to enable that technology. There have been dual sim phones by other manufactures for many years. I would be very happy if Apple followed suit.

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