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  • US will not tolerate EU fine against Apple, says White House

    oxonrich said:
    anonymouse said:

    “Something as nebulous as "spirit" isn't law because laws must clearly state what they mean. How can anyone know if they are following the law, or breaking it, if the laws is so ill defined as to depend entirely on the "interpretation" that regulators choose to give it.”




    Thats a bit rich coming from an American. How much time is spent “interpreting” your constitution because it wasn’t clearly stated what your lawmakers meant.
    Yes, and these "interpretations" have sometimes caused us no end of trouble, like Dred Scott and the recent decision creating out of thin air Presidential immunity. 
    No shit. If you're not prepared to re-write your laws in a way that make sense, why on earth do you expect other others to do so. 

    The DMA isn't an extortion racket. It's a way of protecting EU members from companies that are taking advantage of their market position and abusing it. Is it perfect. No. Is it needed, absolutely. If the EU stopped doing everything that Americans don't understand they would not be able to enact a single law.

    Alternatively we could look to ban those abusers entirely. Or force the sale of the company to EU owners. But that all sounds a little authoritarian to me. 
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  • US will not tolerate EU fine against Apple, says White House

    anonymouse said:

    “Something as nebulous as "spirit" isn't law because laws must clearly state what they mean. How can anyone know if they are following the law, or breaking it, if the laws is so ill defined as to depend entirely on the "interpretation" that regulators choose to give it.”




    Thats a bit rich coming from an American. How much time is spent “interpreting” your constitution because it wasn’t clearly stated what your lawmakers meant.

    US tech companies have got away with bullying and monopoly behaviour for years. And Americans were fine with it.

    Amazon has destroyed retail markets all over the world by undercutting them and shipping everywhere. 

    Google and Facebook have destroyed the media landscape all over the world. Most advertising dollars go to these companies rather than local media. They have a massive impact on the local economy and then dont pay any tax by diverting their massive profits to places like Singapore and Ireland. And the huge amounts of money spent on these companies don't count as “imports”.  If they did, a lot more countries would have a trade deficit with the States. And then Trump uses trade imbalances as an excuse to apply “reciprocal” tariffs. It’s downright ridiculous.

    US companies cause havoc to other countries economies. I am a huge Apple fan and spend a lot of money on their products, but I’m getting very tired of Americans playing victim.   You have 5% of the worlds population and yet 25% of the worlds wealth. You are not a victim. You were well positioned after WW2 to grow economically while Europe had to rebuild. And you took advantage of that. Well done. You do not own, or deserve, a seat at the top. You have to earn it.

    World trade will pivot to Asia, whatever you do. They have almost 40% of the worlds population in just two countries and both are expected to have a larger economy that then US inside 20 years. You can work with allies to reduce the impact of this and make it a smooth transition. Or you can isolate yourselves and get forgotten. The world will happily move on without you.

    Incidentally. Im very happy with my latest macbook pro. USA designs some great products. It shipped to me direct from the manufacturer in Asia
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