larryjw

Monterey installed without incident on iMac.

Failure on  M1 MBA. Hours with support without resolution, yet. Can’t detect the boot disk 

did notice a big sur 11.6.1 update also.  Trying that now. Hopefully that will take care of it. 

Everyone needs to recognize: There are no good guys. 

GeorgeBMac said:

dk49 said:

Why does Apple want an exclusive plant? They can always sign an exclusivity contract with the manufacturer if they don't want that battery tech to be sold to anyone else (if they have some parents over that battery tech).

My first accounting job out of college in the early 70's was with an RCA plant that manufactured police radios.

One of the policies of that plant was to use small & medium sized suppliers as much as possible because, with its size, it had leverage over them.   Simply put:  the company could run any supplier out of business simply by no longer buying from them.  Those suppliers had to toe the line set by RCA or die.

I suspect the same principle -- LEVERAGE -- exists here with a demand for exclusivity.

Once a company sinks a few billion into a plant devoted only to Apple's wants and needs, it is at Apple's mercy -- which has never been one of its strong points.

Whether it's a reasonable policy depends on the negotiating positions. If Apple is expecting a company to build a plant on its own dime just for Apple is clearly a non-starter for all but the most clueless companies. If Apple is willing to cough up the cash, that's a different case entirely.

As the article points out, one company backed out because they couldn't find qualified staff in the US. I think that's likely to be the killer of all attempts to have the batteries made in the US. The US skills deficit has been increasing non-stop for 40 years -- and that is just one of the factors that will impede manufacturing in the US. 

Apple will go outside the US to get it done -- but they're having to prove they had no choice. 

Intel has also said it wants to again make chips in the US, and has talked of being able to fabricate Apple Silicon. That may be their only way forward, but at least doable.

dewme said:

This is a bad look for Apple, but I’d like to see Apple’s response to the claim. Hopefully the reported confidentiality request from Apple was not their last engagement with the researcher in question. It would be nice if an independent party like AppleInsider could follow up with both sides to see where this lands. 

It blows my mind that a process as serious as Apple’s Bug Bounty Program would not have a very regimented incident tracking system in place. The system should include formal notification to the submitter about exactly what type of public credit and financial compensation will be awarded. The person submitting the report should not be waiting around and reading release notes every time a new release drops to see whether their submission is given the credit it deserves.

If Apple doesn’t provide the proper assurances and follow-through, I think that it’s far more likely that researchers will get frustrated and try to embarrass Apple. 

Absolutely correct. Just because someone publicly claims they are the discoverer of some bug, does not mean they were the first to make the discovery, for example. Apple must be more transparent to researchers and the public about critical bugs. I think in the 15.0.2 case, they credited "anonymous" with the bug find in question.