davidmalcolm

You know what I’d like to be behind? A Mac with a processor from this generation! Seriously the only Mad that has been upgraded within the last year is the iMac Pro. Putting out an ad campaign when Apple has given up on making sure Macs are competitive in the market is just dumb. Advertise the product when it isn’t a bad investment Apple! And get me my damned Coffeelake MacBook!

I hope they keep support for the series 1 for a while. I think they will since they're still selling them. But while I love my Apple Watch and wear it every day. (And it sometimes even motivates me to get to the gym) I really don't want to purchase a new one more than every four years.

So I had three grand Canadian saved in a savings account plus another thousand in my checking to cover any must have upgrades I was ready to pull the trigger on a new MacBook Pro, I was even entertaining the idea of a 15 inch Pro because by the time you factor in upping the RAM and processor and SSD you're actually pretty well at the entry level point for the 15 inch anyway. I was all set as soon as they introduced the new Macs with coffee lake processors, the ones with more cores than I have now, the ones that would be able to run all the apps I use like butter, the ones that would be the first major improvement from Intel since the Sandybridge chips, one of which is in my MacBook Pro! And ... nothing. NOTHING! I took two grand of that savings and threw it on my student loans as my own personal middle finger to Apple (Which isn't to say I can't just put it on my line of credit if they announce it next week). The problem for me is that my Mac won't run Mojave, and I get that the GPU in it can't do the fancy Metal stuff that they're probably integrating into the window server or whatever. But I have to ask what's the hold up with the new MacBook Pros? When Apple first switched to Intel they were getting early access to chips. Now Intel releases something and Apple will get around to it in six months? If something is out and available and an improvement, I want Apple to be using it because if I get a new Mac I'm not paying a reduced rate if I'm using old tech. If my laptop gets stolen or something, I don't want to know that I'm paying the price that it'll be when the chip that's already out is finally included but that Apple is waiting until they feel like it to release a new computer. Now I get that they probably make even more on the sale of any computers when the hardware inside is a bit out dated. But come on, the Mac isn't even a big business compared to the iPhone. If it'll help them release new stuff in time I'd be fine with them essentially just using Intel reference hardware in a unibody case with a nice display so long as it runs macOS. I don't CARE if it's the thinnest laptop on the planet, to be honest I'd rather it wasn't. The new keyboards don't feel as nice as the old ones. I'd gladly pay for a Mac that looks exactly like my 2011 MacBook Pro if it came with a high res screen and current gen processor (heck I'd be over the moon if the SSD and RAM were upgradable!) I just want a computer that is using current gen tech. I don't mind paying stupid amounts, (Correction the Canadian dollar sucks and Apple's been upping the price of the MacBook Pro to insane levels, but I'll pay it!) so long as when I buy I'm buying the best that Apple can give me, not the best that they're lazily getting around to. If you need to hire more hardware engineers, do it! They say they don't have enough key people around, fine, hire in some new people. Let them know that they don't get to make new prototypes or try out crazy design ideas. Their whole job is to figure out what is necessary to keep a computer that looks exactly like the one before it running with whatever the new hardware is inside. Put these teams in charge of the Mac mini, put them in charge of the MacBook Pro. Heck come out with a new product, call it MacBook Not Our Flagship and just put out whatever new stuff is available EVEN if the computer has to be more than an inch thick! Just let me use a powerful computer that runs macOS that can't be beaten by a Hackintosh built at the same time!

I think the concern over 3 years is that the MacBook 2015 is supported. Poster doesn't seem to realize there was another MacBook years ago, but that the current kind launched in 15. That said they dropped support for my 2011 MacBook Pro. I'm sure because the GPU isn't Metal capable. I suspect they're doing big parts of the UI in Metal now. I just need them to release quad core i7 13 inch MacBook Pros and I'll upgrade!

Soli said:

davidmalcolm said:

Watch and TV’s respective systems are already based on iOS just with some chunks removed and some stuff added that’s specific to their platforms. […] The big big question is, will Apple use the transition to “iOS desktop edition” as an excuse to lock down Macs to only sandboxes apps from the App Store?

And yet they're called tvOS and watchOS because they're distinct OSes for distinct devices. So, no, a Mac running x86_64 or AArch64 will not be renamed "iOS desktop edition."

Congrats, you're smart enough to understand that, yet not smart enough that I wasn't taking a stab at naming this impending OS. If I was going to take a stab at that, I'd suggest they were either going to stick with iOS, or rebrand iOS, tvOS, watchOS and macOS as appleOS or come up with some brand new naming convention. Though they could also just choose to keep calling this new version macOS and simply state that in version 10._ they're breaking compatibility and dropping a ton of APIs and requiring developers to use the new ones.