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  • Apple confirms Oct 13th event to announce new 'iPhone 12' family

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    .... Of course, when I make predictions I'm usually wrong. Regardless, I'll reiterate my other prediction that the new Apple Silicon Macs will drop the name "Mac" and replace it with "Apple", i.e., Apple Mini, Apple Book Pro, Apple Air, etc. That's because the word "Apple" has a strong positive brand image but "Mac" has a mixed image. ...
    Wut?

    That would be like dropping the name "Band Aid" and calling them "Johnson & Johnson Adhesive Strips."
    Yes, you are dead right, it would be like that, except that the term "Apple" is the most valuable brand name in the world, while Johnson and Johnson isn't even in the top 100. https://www.forbes.com/the-worlds-most-valuable-brands <-- So Apple's new line of computers would benefit by using the most valuable brand name in the world.
    Literally no one refers to their device that runs on MacOS as their Apple.

    Literally everyone would continue to refer to their device that runs on MacOS as their Mac if they changed its name to something else. 

    Apple is the name of the company. The products that Apple makes all have other names. Calling one of the products they make an Apple would effectively make it an Apple Apple.

    That seems a little awkward.
    The only problem with your idea is that Apple already goes against your advice by calling their products "Apple" like "Apple Watch", "Apple TV", "Apple Music", "Apple News+", and so on. So it's very consistent to use the word "Apple" as part of their product name. It's not awkward at all. Have you ever called those product names "awkward" before? If so, I will apologize. 

    But hey, I know my prediction isn't likely to come true, because it's a very specific and dramatic change. We'll find out before New Year's Day, according to Tim Cook.
    Let’s try this again, but I’ll write slower this time. 

    “Apple Watch” is a watch, made by Apple. “Apple TV” is a TV device... made by Apple. 

    If you start calling the computer made by Apple the, uh, Apple, then you have the “Apple Apple.” 

    Awkward. 

    But that’s ok, because everyone would still call it a Mac. 
    Go back and reread my post. I said the computers should be called "Apple Mini", "Apple Pro,", "Apple Air", etc. I did not say "Apple Apple". I said the word Apple replaces the word "Mac" brand not the computer model component.
    You are persistent, aren't you? I read your post; did you? The naming convention goes Manufacturer -> Device -> Device subcategory or model (if there is one). A-> B-> C. It follows a logical pattern. So, for instance, you have Apple TV 4K. Apple iPhone 11s. Apple MacBook Pro. In some cases, Apple is inferred and left off, but it's there. Everything already starts with Apple.

    Your idea isn't what you think it is. You're either calling the device "Mini," "Pro," and "Air," and including the ever-present Apple manufacturer name in front of that, or you're calling them Apple Apple Mini, Apple Apple Pro, and Apple Apple Air. I suppose there's a third option, and you're eliminating the name of the device entirely, and skipping from A-> C. That's impenetrably confusing, too.

    I was being polite calling that awkward. It is (still trying to be polite) completely, irrevocably nonsensical, and based on a nonexistent premise you've made up, that the name Mac is somehow problematic from a marketing standpoint. It isn't. They're not going to stop calling a Mac a Mac. The name is iconic and indelible.
    You are ignoring my point that many of Apple's product names actually include the word "Apple". I gave several examples. Under your silly theory the "Apple TV 4K" is Manufacturer-=Apple, Product=TV, Subproduct=4K. That's nonsense. The actual product name is "Apple TV". It is not "TV". You can't trademark a generic word like "TV" so the Apple product trademark is actually "Apple TV."

    And I admit there's only a 15% chance that Apple will rebrand Macs, but if they do, you need to get down on your knees and beg for forgiveness.
    Well, that hardly seems fair. At what point when your silly idea doesn’t happen will you be getting down on your knees to beg forgiveness?
    I've already admitted there's an 85% chance that you will be right. So if you end up being right, I've got no need to apologize. In fact, I'll go so far as to say there's a 98% chance you will be right. But if I'm right it's like shooting a bulls-eye from 2 miles away with a pistol. And everyone, including you, will need to acknowledge my prescience.
    Apple is not adding word “Apple” to it’s products, but apple symbol. It’s just the way you read the pictogram.
    With your logic, next Mac would be called

    Computer, Computer Pro, Notebook etc. Silly.

    What I can see coming is

    Mac, Mac Pro, MacBook etc.. however, such a chage feels so unnecessary to me. “Mac” is an iconic differentiator of other personal computer, than “PC”. They’ll never drop it I hope.
    watto_cobraargonaut
  • EU could force Apple to share user data with competitors

    I want to contol who gets my personal data, not on basis of some industry white-list, but on my own trust in companies!
    For example, if Facebook is white-listed, because they was quick to remove their data collecting “features” following their relevation and just stating it was a bug.. thus courts found them not guilty? I don’t trust these companies any further, no matter how authorities are considering them. 
    This is another EU bs, wish my country had balls to exit this union! Czexit!
    watto_cobra
  • Apple buys podcast app Scout FM amid increased competition from Spotify

    kolvas said:
    davgreg said:
    Beats said:
    Apple invented the podcast.
    Apple did not invent the podcast. It predates Apple’s involvement.
    The podcast was invented by Adam Curry (former MTV Vjay and current cohost of the no agenda podcast) along with Dan Winer. 


    By the term, “podcast” was invented by Apple.. as episodic series of spoken word digital audio files, with one distribution place, categorization, and iconic name. Beats is absolutely right.
    Otherwise, I remember one local Mac magazine with CD-ROM, featuring MacOS (what, System 7!!) oriented spoken word show each month.. that time it was MOV file, using Qualcomm PureVoice audio codec.
    By the definition, we can consider any 80’s spoken word shows distributed on Sony DAT tapes a “podcast”!
    For me, podcast is just a style, brand for lenghty audio file. Nobody invented. Unpatentable.
    watto_cobrabyronl
  • Coalition for App Fairness unites developers to fight Apple's App Store fees and policies

    We the people, who understand Apples reasoning for AppStore policies and fees, we should show these companies what “non-profit” could mean.. by stopping buying their apps.
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  • Epic says Apple no longer plans to disable 'Sign in with Apple'

    When the game (like “the product”) is free to download, and you just have to pay within to extend it’s functionality, then I would say Apple can disable any associated functionality, like Sign In With Apple. It’s not like crippling functionality of the goods I already paid for.
    watto_cobra