6Sgoldfish

spheric said:

What a useless headline, and it just goes to show what a useless metric market share is. 

Apple's sales DECLINED year over year. They just declined slightly less than the industry average. 

While it's certainly worth reporting the numbers, spinning this as a "win" is ridiculous. 

foggyhill said:

6Sgoldfish said:

I'm talking design while you are responding with knee-jerk, irrelevant (erroneous, even) points. Eg. screen not only isn't arguable, according to displaymate.com "Galaxy S7 becomes the Best Performing Smartphone Display that we have ever tested." 3D Touch is a cool feature that still oscillates between practicality and gimmickry. I didn't mention waterproofing. But since you went there, I'll say the SD slot is a nice addition, and a 32GB base offering makes perfect sense. The software side is the usual Touchwizz-Android abomination, but I'm sure you noticed me lauding the iOS experience before dishing out, right?

I don't really care how much Samsung has spent on marketing, nor have I issued an Apple "obit". Simply a word of caution, as one of the many Apple fans out there who find their recent designs, well, derivative and boring. At the end of the day, it's OK to admit that the S7 Edge is a prettier looking phone than the 6S Plus. 

I don't give a crap what you deem irrelevant or not BUD.
 How your fracking score all of this is all about you; you're not a panel of potential Apple buyers all by yourself.

You do know shreaking violins  like you were touting you crap loud and clear last year too; think we forgot all of that.
What difference did it make in the end?

Performance is behind a 6 month old phone, it's even worse when you actually use the phones
(because of my job I have access to almost all type of phones).
That's one thing that's fracking important for a phone don't you think; but, hey not for you, mr impartial (sic).

How is it irrelevant that their pissing 5B to push a phone and try to gain traction, they spent nearly 10B for the whole year last year (estimated)
That conveniently doesn't enter in their profit and loss for the division (because of the way advertising is entered in the financials),
but means the phones are still likely losing money for the company.

We have to guess everything about them because they're known for massaging their numbers A LOT, unlike Apple.

If McD was pushing their crap with 10B advertising, people would call it force feeding (and they do);
 but if Samsung does it, well who knows what Samsungs flock of robot buyers will think of that.
And they call Apple Fans "Sheep"... Good grief.


As for the rest, You are concern trolling as usual, OK "non fan"... So spare me the blah blah blah.

Shall we go ahead and just all agree to pretend the 16GB SKU doesn't exist and quote $499 as the price for discussion's sake? 

foggyhill said:

6Sgoldfish said:

From where I see it the S7 Edge, admittedly well designed and having positively incorporated critique (ie. by shaving off the S6's volcanic camera bump), is placing Apple's 'S' tick tock cycle into question. It used to make sense to offer a faster horse in the same shell in the days of 3GS and 4S, when the industry was still shellshocked by the iPhone killing it in every direction. But the competition nowadays has picked up the pace to such extent that the S increments just don't cut it anymore. Chinese knockoffs like Huawei slavishly copy even the rumors surrounding Apple's devices (eg. dual camera) long before Apple manages to unveil a finished product that all but confirms the rumor mill. Apple's products are better polished and operative, you'll say, and I agree. Problem is, competitors are starting to do the same convincingly enough to invoke fatigue over Apple's annual product announcements. And while Apple consumers (myself included) refuse to leave the great iOS experience/ecosystem, we've come to expect more than self-congratulatory (pink) gold versions of the same products year after year. I want to see Apple surprise and impress again, and I strongly wish the rumors of iPhone 7 being another safe incremental update are bogus. If the S7 can achieve such popularity as to shake up the Cupertino ivory tower, I'm all for it. 

Don't even know what the hell your talking about the A9 still kicks the performance ofthe S7 up and down the road, there's 3d touch, and it beats it on weight, size to feature, battery life and fingerprint scanner.

The only place where the S7 has a marked advantage on the Iphone 6s is in the Camera; the screen is arguable.
The 6s can stay 30 min under water, that's pretty much considered water proof for most humans.
What the frack else does it even have?

You do know that Samsung has been promoting the shit out of their phone, probably spending 3-5B dollars in a few months (Apple usually spends 1/3-1/4 of that), including cutting margins to death, yet they got 10% up in profits from the near bottomless pit they had last year and that's a sign of doom for Apple! (and that includes profits from everything mobile, not just phones). That just means they're not cratering anymore, not exactly a second coming.
 
We'll see how the year ends before writing an "obit"

Samsung swings their design year to year but all in all they're slavish Apple copiers still, they're even copying faster than they did before.

bobschlob said:

6Sgoldfish said:

Of course a 2016 release would be better and pricier than a 3-yr old device, brainiac. And for $399 we sure DESERVE a kickass phone. But cramming pieces of last year's tech into a 2013 shell has complacency written all over it -all the more for a company synonymous with "thinking different" in terms of industrial design.

Steve Jobs had said "Apple is focused on the future, not the past." Obviously that's not the case anymore. 

Yeah. Like copy-catting the earlier-than-Apple "phablet" makers and the "brilliant" (/s) slippery soap bar design was really getting out there on the edge, and "thinking different".