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muppetry said:

maestro64 said:

As far as I have seen no one has presented any evidence or data these two people were terrorist, The government has used this a catch all phase to lump anyone who does things which does not agree with what our government deems in their best interest.

These two are not terrorist, they were bad people who parent failed to raise them properly and were hell bent on destruction, and they succeeded. This was someone who had a beef with people they worked with and decide to take out their vengeance on those people, they were not part of any group or organization which was plotting against the LA country Social Worker group.

In typical fashion, the victims want answers to questions which do not exist, they want someone to say these bad people did this because of something specific like there were terrorist verse they were bad people who hated them for whatever their personal reasons.

This is no different than the kid in Connecticut, who kills all those kid and with no reason, other than he had serious issues. So everyone blames the gun since it had to be the guns fault. So these people are blaming the iphone for there reason for not having answers.

That's a bit of a stretch to argue that this was not terrorism. It seems well established that they were radicalized (I dislike that term) in the Middle East, then came back here and committed mass murder against a target of convenience. I haven't seen any alternative motive proposed than supporting the ISIS struggle against the US.

wood1208 said:

Let's steer this discussion away from Apple. The San Bernardino terrorists did not use iphone to kill Americans but used freely available Guns.So, before messing up with privacy,security,civil rights, freedom and liberty, let's put better Gun control laws that would not allow any Muslim to possesses gun in this country.