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steevyweb said:

I would say again - make that lofty argument to the mother of a dead son or daughter.

Hokay.

Me: I have a right to drive on the roads.
You: Tell that to the mother of a son or daughter whose guts are spilled over somebody's fender!!
Me: I have a right to own a firearm.
You: Tell that to the mother of a son or daughter whose brains got blown out by a bullet!!!!
Me: I have a right to practice my religion.
You: Tell that to the mother of a son or daughter who got their throat slit on an alter by some weirdo cultist!!!!!!
Me: I have a right to drink liquor.
You: Tell that to the mother of a son or daughter who got their liver turned to swiss cheese by alcohol poisoning!!!!!!!!

Dave S said:

I work on the assumption that we have to trust the system.

The fact that the government doesn't get to do whatever it wants IS the system. It is the Feds who are declaring their contempt for the system.

"The evidence on Farook's iCloud account suggests that he had already changed his iCloud password himself on October 22, 2015--shortly after the last backup--and that the autobackup feature was disabled. A forced backup of Farook's iPhone was never going to be successful, and the decision to obtain whatever iCloud evidence was immediately available via the password change was the reasoned decision of experienced FBI agents investigating a deadly terrorist conspiracy," the government claims.

What "evidence"? The only known password change was the one done by San Bernadino county at the direction of the FBI. This is a blatant attempt by the Feds to cover their asses for either 1)incompetently screwing up their ability to get into the phone via established channels to which Apple has shown no objection or 2)deliberately blocking the alternative option as part of a deliberate plan to set up a precedent-setting case.