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  • Trump Mobile drops false 'made in America' promise

    What I don't get is why would TMobile allow its website to be used to publish lies? It hurts TMobile's brand. 

    Anybody with sense knew from the start that that phone wasn't gonna be made in the US. 
    First, it's not T-mobile's website. Trump Mobile is a "Mobile Virtual Network Operator" that would presumably lease access at wholesale from T-mobile's cellular network. As with much else the Trump Org does, they don't make anything, but rather slap a gold T on lease deals. 

    As for T-mobile's willingness to be involved in any manor whatsoever, put yourself in their shoes. They're regulated by the FCC, part of a government currently ruled by Donald Trump's fiats through social media and executive orders. When Eric and Don Jr showed up at T-mobile wanting to do an MVNO lease, what were they going to do, say no and risk an arbitrary executive order screwing with their business, or the FCC suddenly announcing some sort of "investigation"?

    This is why, even if Trump Mobile was otherwise legit and not some sort of grift, it shouldn't exist anyway. Any of the other 45 presidents in US history would face impeachment for that level of conflict-of-interest alone. For this one, it's just another Wednesday.
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  • Trump Mobile drops false 'made in America' promise


    okypinoky said:
    metalcase said:
    This is an APPLEINSIDER top story?  What does this have to do with Apple? Are there not already enough websites spreading political division and hate?
    Absolutely concur!

    Thanks Appleinsider for a completely useless article that serves no other purpose than to bash the President of the United States.  As a Veteran that has served under several Presidents with different ideologies - what has happened to America where all we do is bash our dully elected leaders simply because we are of different opinions.

    This Country simply lacks pride and this stupid article just showed its true colors. 

    Idiots.
    It's not an opinion to state the fact that the Trump Org has backed off the false claim that their T1 phone would be built in the US, or that the T1 phone and Trump Mobile itself are at best a crass move by the family of the President to profit off his presidency. 

    I have enough pride in this country to say that the whole thing is at best below the dignity of the Office of the President, and it is a disservice that President Trump has not publicly objected to it and asked his sons to shut the whole embarrassing thing down. I also have enough pride in the country to observe that this isn't just a crass faux pas, but yet another grift where the President himself is seeking to profit off the presidency in an activity rife with deep conflicts of interest as he takes executive actions that will affect competitors to this new "business." My pride in the country demands that this should stop and the people sullying our government be held to account for it.
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  • Trump Mobile drops false 'made in America' promise

    metalcase said:
    This is an APPLEINSIDER top story?  What does this have to do with Apple? Are there not already enough websites spreading political division and hate?
    Short answer: We can cover anything we'd like. Ink by the barrel and so forth.

    Longer answer: Apple and Trump intersect in about 10 different ways. If you can't see the connection to Apple because, charitably, his sons decided to do this and license the name, launching in SEPTEMBER, you know, iPhone release season, while their father shit-talks Apple for not manufacturing in the US, while they at the same time try to pull a fast one about US manufacturing, I don't know what to tell you.

    We do not require you to read everything we write. If you don't like something, move on to the next piece, or the 10 before that, or the 50,000 before that.

    If there's hate to be had here, it's the Trump sons that are doing it in this case. Pointing out the lies is hardly that. Facts don't care about your feelings or political side.

    A common retreat in the MAGA playbook when unpleasant facts are pointed out is the pearl-clutching "stay in your lane" lament. The same people who voted a D-list TV celebrity into office will tell every actor, musician, comedian, or athlete to stick to entertaining and keep their opinions to themselves if they don't subscribe to the cult, or in this case, will tell an Apple-centric publication to shut up about this Trump Phone grift even as Trump has targeted Apple, now effectively a business competitor, with government fiats that have already no doubt cost Apple millions of dollars. Your answer that this is your lane is correct and fully justified.
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  • Trump Mobile drops false 'made in America' promise

    Not that consistency has any relevance in this administration, but you’d still have to think that the existence of the Trump phone, even as temporary vaporware, now shields Apple (and others) against the previous threat of a “smartphone tariff.” 

    Trump and Co giving up on the too-easily exposed lie that the T1 would be made in the US means that any tariff on iPhone would also apply to the T1. 

    What if they abandon the T1 altogether? Well, that along with the current concession that it isn’t going to be made in the US demonstrates that the expectation that Apple could build iPhone here anytime soon is impossible. If Trump can’t make a phone in America by August, how could anyone else be expected to do it?

    Regarding Trump Mobile itself, it seems more questionable than ever that the T1 will ever materialize. That then brings into question the whole enterprise, because whole the point for any MAGA customer would be the conspicuous consumption of the brand. Paying more to bring your own phone to use Trump Mobile while no one can see you’re using Trump Mobile won’t cut it. Selling branded phone cases might help with that, but manufacturing those for dozens of phone models would be too complicated and would involve way too much cost in overhead (including tariffs!) for holding inventory. 

    Could Trump Mobile be another failed enterprise before it even gets off the ground? Maybe Apple should just be thankful for the comically unforced error, as Tim Cook gently commiserates with the president over just how hard it would be to onshore production so hastily. 
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  • Courts say AI training on copyrighted material is legal

    If everyone who writes a comment on this page will send a fee to Dr Seuss for learning from his books to read and speak, then I will pay attention to their views if they oppose AI learning from published sources. But if you aren't willing to pay everyone that you learn from, for every word that comes out of your mouth, then I don't see why AI should have to pay either. Next, are we going to charge aliens for learning English by reading the radio waves that are being sent into deep space?
    Very few people have eidetic memory. Lots have read and learned from Dr. Seuss, but few, having read it once, could recite Green Eggs and Ham verbatim from memory. I once queried one of the popular LLM AI programs to write a story about green eggs and ham in the style of Dr. Seuss. The AI program then regurgitated the original, almost verbatim. 

    These programs consist of all this accumulated information scraped from wherever it can be scraped, combined with sufficient computational power to brute force a most-probable sequence of words in response to a submitted query. There is no reasoning or thinking or even learning in the human sense involved. 

    Had I submitted that green eggs and ham query to human writers, many would simply tell me Dr. Seuss had already written that. Some more creative people might think about it and do a mash-up, rewriting, say, Horton Hears a Who, but changing the story to be about green eggs and ham. Someone else might actually write an entirely original story about green eggs and ham, using a fresh helping of nonsense along with Seuss's characteristic rhyme and meter conventions. 

    The LLM AI, however, doesn't think at all, but rather spits out collages made from other people's work. A middle school or high school student has absorbed a tiny fraction of the amount of information indexed by and LLM program, they have received a tiny fraction of the programming (e.g. classroom instruction) of a LLM program, and will then apply a tiny fraction of the computational power used by AI to produce a written paper in response to a written instruction or assignment, and yet, an average or better student will, without committing plagiarism, produce a better written, more accurate, less hallucinatory paper than AI will. 

    Ai does not learn, it scrapes and indexes. AI does not think or create, regurgitates. 
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