holyone

peterhart said:

I don't 'get' Cardi B...completely not my style. Amazing to watch who the world migrates to as time goes on.

I second that, she has shit verses heavily reliant on production generated vibe its hard to belive how well crap can sell, drake ofcause is on this too but at least he can drop proper bars when he feels loke it and is just probably riding the new wave, thank god for Kendrick. Every year music just gets even more shit than the last, wonder why that is, just when we thoght we saw the worst of it with justin b and 1D then comes this wannabe, the shitiest part is that the endless hord of idiots think that this wacko's better than niki. There other day I came to the scary realization that punk rock and rock were dead and I didn't even realized it had happened. Think about this, who's the new green-day, evanescence or even bink 182, whose this generation's nickle back or pink for that matter ? all those guys are gone and lets not even re-traumatize ourselves with linki'n park . I like Taylor but reputation is neare irredeemable junk in comparison to her earlier stuff. Sorry to vent just my 2 cents.

Hey @DanielEran if Apple makes no money from Siri how is she "failing all the way to the bank?" If siri was 100x better tomorrow and sounded just like Scarlet Johanson in "Her" how would that get people who already have iPhones to buy new ones? You're wrightup doesn't seem to follow its own logic.

Apple views siri as complementary to the iPhone like like the watch, they have very little to gaine by dedicating the gargantuan amounts of resources it would take to make sirri get to that Samantha level, I think I read somewhere that Bezos' got over 100K people working on Alexa don't know how true that is but unlike Apple Alexa could realistically makes AMZ serious $$$ because Alexa is complementary to AMZ's business model not the products they sell, so maybe you could work on something to show us how Apple getting "Sirious" about Siri will meaning fully contribute to the bottom line since you love to bring up in almost every artticle, & why do you do that by the way, how has talking about how much money Apple's making become the thing Apple fans care about now?

Only AAPL fans care about that and those guys car about Apple only as far as the next financial statement's good for them no?  

I have a few significantly complex questions for any one interested, many many many apologies that this is so goddam long I just couldn't stop typing, sorry  

 We know that Apple's business models revolves around selling premium hardware at premium prices, we also know that intrinsic to the value of that hardware is its deep integration with software specifically calibrated to it. Apple's greatest prowess and economic advantage is its software/hardware integration. It thus becomes obvious that as the most explicit expression of this notion, Apple's software in the form of iOS and macOS first party apps are central to experiencing this greatness that is Apple devices. 

 Apple first party apps enjoy unparalleled integration with the OS and the hardware so to truly realize how much better Apple' devices are then Sammy's it is necessary to use as many of their apps wherever possible, if Apple has an app for it it's probably better to use their's just for the integration alone.  As far as I can tell Apple is divided in three major section, hardware/software/design each of these disciplines must perfectly balance the others to create a solid product. Software can't be so ambitious it overruns  the hardware and hardware can't be so excessive it can't fit Jony's sexy designs. 

 Obviously this leads to great overall products but also to considerate decisions and considerate features, the people making software aren't just making it, they have to consider hardware and visa versa, this I think is more damaging that advantageous. Because the software people aren't just sitting there dreaming up amazing features, every new thing has to go up the chain and approved by the various stakeholders. Then agreed upon by the leadership  who then assume responsibility for any bugs and failures.

   My 1st questions then become, if the above is actually how Apple works, does this not means that Apple will naturally shy away from supper cool features with high failure risk thus Apple first party apps will not always have the greatest features  currently possible because it's not just a build the best coolest software you can?
 For instance Apple's maps app is better integrated to iOS thus more convenient to use thus more used, but Google maps is technically a superior app such that if it had as much integration with the OS that Apple's maps does it be more preferred by users to the first party app threatening Apple's business model  

My 2nd question is if Apple's continued success so heavily  depends on users staying inside the Apple universe of first party apps even if they may not be the absolute best there is but are the best integrated, isn't it the risk that if Apple did open up the gates of heaven and allow third party developers full access to the same things that their own apps have with enough protection for the user that these developers who would spend all their time and effort making apps that Apple's just couldn't compete with because Apple doesn't just make apps they just can't dedicate that much man power and focus on apps only that users would stop using first party apps leaving Apple held hostage to external forces they don't control? Case and point when google was fucking with the maps app on iOS till Apple built their own

 For instance if Facebook wasn't the shit that it is and was a wonderfull truly loved app that people spent most of their time on iPhone using then Zackuburg woke up one day and went "you know what I don't like that godforsaken notch and we aint  bringing facebook to the X" and users  who buy the X will not be using face book on it, the one thing people do the most on their phones how many would upgrade to the X ? 

 My 3rd question is doesn't it behoove Apple then to make sure that no third party app has as much access to the OS as it's own? Further more is it no wonder then that Siri is in such a state, I mean it really doesn't benefit Apple to make Siri supper great. Siri is an assistant her job is to assist you with what ever you may need, at some point very soon we will be able to have natural conversations with these AI's and since it is not possible that everything you could want Siri to do for you will be with in the scope of what Apple as a company does, wont Siri  have to deeply integrated with third party services companies to be able to do some of those things?

 This will in turn take a little if not a lot of the user's attention away from the Apple univers?   If so doesn't that take us back to the first two problems, if Siri was the best she could be wouldn't  that diminish Apple's premium hardware proposition, she lives on the cloud and every device no matter how old would be able to access her so why upgrade ?

 If Spotify had as much access and integration as Apple Music would it be at 30m + ? I mean Spotify only makes Spotify how hard would it be for them to put everything they had to creating the best music streamer there is so that they were first choice on Apple devices?  My overall assertion is this, if most of what you did on an Apple device wasn't made by Apple yet was better and more compelling a force determining which devices you used and for how long, Apple's premium hardware proposition would be significantly diminished and Apple knows this, I think Siri just can't be what we want because if she was there'd be even less need to upgrade than there is now and Apple's business model needs upgrades, they make $0.00 from a wonderful Siri on an iPhone 6

 Thoughts? 

foggyhill said:

holyone said:

So I've been thinking, the could be a viable solution for this. So imagine this, Apple Samsung Microsoft and entire Tech community comes together to build  "Magi" a closed end supper computer system with near human speech and critical analysis.

The Magi will collect insane amounts of data about every one using a computer in a particular region then analyze and store that info. Built with no feasible way of remote hacking or remote access of the system. To access information you have to be physically in the building, engaging with the computer in person, but there is no clicking on a keyboard and mouse accessing unlimited, unrelated and personal information about any one, to get information you have to talk or interrogate Magi e.g

Agent: Hello "M" I am officer KD6-3.7, authenticate.

 Magi: good morning officer K  what can I do for you this morning ? 

 K: a Robert Dear of Charleston, South Carolina and Louisville, Kentucky has been flagged, community members have reported N1 behavioral patterns triggering this "look see" any thing note worthy ?

 Magi: let me see.... Ok I found this C2 level rhetoric on a marijuana Internet forum: "Turn to JESUS or burn in hell [...] WAKE UP SINNERS U CANT SAVE YOURSELF U WILL DIE AN WORMS SHALL EAT YOUR FLESH, NOW YOUR SOUL IS GOING SOMEWHERE." 
 
Magi: He also posted notes on the same forum describing his own marijuana usage and stating that he was looking for women to "party" with.

 K: any group links ?

 Magi: none at this point

 K: what's you're Determination ?

 Magi: I recommend a (grade: 5 hate sentiment) reprimand, 10m radius prohibition zone and (level: 2 pri-monitor) serve. 

 K: I see, print the papper work, I'll petition a Judge's signature and pay Mr Dear a visit.

 Yes I know very cute but, this way the police can have reasonable access to information they migh need but they have to ask for specific information related to suspicion or connection to probable cause or infliction of criminality or unlawfull pattens of behavior and or activity. 

 The government uses computer to sieve through these large data sets any way, it's not like supper computers aren't doing a lot of this already.  What I think in undesirable is any group of people having this kind of power, people are corruptible and greedy and nasty even at their most noblest of causes and not to be trusted under the best circumstances.   I believe this might be the greatest calling for computing, and who better positions to get them there than Apple. The system could rapidly get so sophisticated that it could flag people itself and warn of imminent danger. Could be cool, no ?   Disagree ? 

You could make it like Demolition man with automatic fine dispensers for "bad" expression of thoughts

Yeah, still wondering about the three shells though  

And let's not forget "hey Siri illuminate" I thought that was so cool when Snipes changed that minister guy's home light command, how weird we actually do that now

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Jony: hey Tim I think you might be holding that wrong mate.
 Tim: ( under his breath ) shhh can't you see this young fella want's to take my picture ?