GeorgeBMac

blastdoor said:

GeorgeBMac said:

blastdoor said:

GeorgeBMac said:

blastdoor said:

javair said:

I know: Analysts are always wrong when it comes to Apple. ...And I have always thought so. BUT, it has been on my mind for the last two years (and I finally heard the same with Jason Snell and John Gruber on podcast) that production in China will someday be a huge problem for Apple. China continues to cause more regional and world problems and postures throughout the Pacific, and no doubt will indeed someday launch its military against Taiwan. No analyst nor Apple exec has even hinted that Apple has a plan for when the shooting starts or the trade penalties hit high gear for ALL of Chinese production. From MacBooks to iPhones and practically all Apple hardware, there is no other place to pick up ALL that production with even one year warning. So, producing NEW categories of Apple hardware in China too? Dang unnerving. Even if Foxconn were Taiwanese-owned, most Foxconn facilities are in an ever increasingly hostile China.

Dang unnerving indeed. As things stand now, if China were to invade Taiwan, apple would go from a $3T company to maybe a $100B company overnight. Maybe worse than that. 

I wonder if the consequences are so horrifying to contemplate that TC and team simply don’t contemplate it. Maybe they figure that’s the day they retire.

If China is pushed to invade Taiwan, they won't bungle it like the U.S. does when it invades somebody.

It will be done swiftly and smoothly. And things will return to normal in short order.

If China attempts to invade Taiwan it will likely be world war 3 and there will be nothing swift or smooth about it. 

But I wouldn't be surprised if your thinking is the same as CCP thinking, which means an invasion is all the more likely. 

LOL....

No, like Ukraine, if it incites war, Taiwan will be on its own.   But we'll be glad to sell them expensive weapons.

Good for us.   Not so good for them.

The US has never made any commitments to defend Ukraine. However, the US has made a commitment (albeit vague) to support Taiwan's defense (see the Taiwan Relations Act). 

Your framing, btw, is totally bizarre. Ukraine did not 'incite war.' Also, your earlier comment about China being "pushed" to invade Taiwan is absurd. How weak and pathetic you must imagine China to be if you think there is some force that could 'push' them to invade Taiwan? China is a big grown up country run by big grown up leaders. It will not be 'pushed' into starting a war. If China invades Taiwan, it will be China that is doing the 'pushing.' 

hydrogen said:

Deprive Russians from iPhones is inhuman !

22july2013 said:

tmay said:

... Stupid.   Very, very stupid.

The post above is chock full of misinformation.
Given the many times that I have countered George since he has been here, I'll spare you the details. Do your own searches on the details.

It's actually entertaining whenever GBM speaks. I always wonder how he's going to defend brutal dictatorships, and he always manages. I would like to have seen him defend the dictatorships back around 1940.

I wish websites like this would have a way we could block certain users from being seen by us. I know a few people would block me, but I think GBM would take top spot.

tmay said:

GeorgeBMac said:

emoeller said:

Putin is maniacal and not easily dissuaded.   If both iOS and Android were cut off that would be devastating as the home grown mobile OS that Russia is using is terrible.   Along with other sanctions it would cripple the Russian economy.

Putin is far from maniacal.   He is calculating.  Coldly, calculating for what is best for his country.

In 2014 Hillary promised Ukraine a NATO membership if they left the Russian fold.

NATO and its missiles, fighter planes, bombers, tanks, etc... on Russia's border are a direct threat to Russia -- just as they were to us in 1960 when Russia started moving them into Cuba.

How did Putin respond to Hillary's foolishness?  By making sure she was not elected president.  And, we didn't hear anymore about NATO in Ukraine till Biden took office.

How did Russia respond to all of that?

Russia wanted ALL Ukrainians to have a vote - so they supported the Minsk agreement.  But western Ukraine blocked it (after agreeing to it) -- so only western Ukrainians got to vote -- and they are voting to let in NATO missiles next door to Russia.   Russia is understandably worried about that -- just as we were when missiles were shipped to Cuba in 1960 when we said:  Either remove them or there WILL BE WAR!

The west knows better than to face Russia militarily.  So it is taking the Trump route with "sanctions".
But, like with Trump's.  It is us who will pay the price. Oil prices are already headed up to $100.

Meanwhile, we've been throwing economic warfare around since 2016 and those we are targeting are beginning to take action to defend themselves.  That will weaken us even further.  Actually, a LOT further when the dollar and U.S. financial systems are no longer the world standard.

The losers in this cock fight will be, once again, us, the people.

All we have to do is commit to never letting NATO into Ukraine and this nonsense would be at an end.  We would lose nothing and the world would gain peace.

But no.  Instead we're starting an economic war.

... Stupid.   Very, very stupid.

The post above is chock full of misinformation.

Given the many times that I have countered George since he has been here, I'll spare you the details. Do your own searches on the details.

Here a twitter link to current news on the Ukraine Crisis;

https://twitter.com/i/lists/1494877848087187461

emoeller said:

Putin is maniacal and not easily dissuaded.   If both iOS and Android were cut off that would be devastating as the home grown mobile OS that Russia is using is terrible.   Along with other sanctions it would cripple the Russian economy.