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One of the main reasons that Apple gave at the announcement of Apple Silicon was its frustration with Intel not providing timely updates on its CPUs. And now, four years on, we appear (according to rumour at least, but the clock is definitely ticking) to be in a very similar situation - with Apple being the one to drag its feet. That’s not to say that Apple Silicon isn’t a vast improvement on the Intel offerings that it replaces, but timing issues are beginning to become apparent. It’s making purchasing a Mac much more of a gamble.

I’m not a fan of the old or the current OSX/maOS System Preferences/Settings. Both look like a dog’s breakfast, as already described above.

Diverting somewhat to the subject of Safari, where’s the previously much-trumpeted ‘translate page’ menu choice in the address bar dropdown featured in the article gone? Deleted? Moved to somewhere harder to find/less logical/more annoying?

gatorguy said:

StrangeDays said:

TravisV said:

This brings up another disturbing scenario with Apple. If the photo's that you deleted years ago reappear what else is Apple storing on their servers that you have deleted from Data Recovery in iCloud. ARE THEY REALLY DELETED or are they just hidden like files hidden on a mac with a ".".. THe question now is can Apple be believed when they say they can not read your FileVault Key that might be stored on their servers and that in Systems Setting in Sonoma and is Advance System Protection, protection at all!

markbyrn said:

If photos are reappearing years after you deleted them, this 17.5 bug only exposed the fact that Apple was somehow retaining the deleted photos. This 17.5.1 update only re-hides that egregious violation of privacy.  Tim Cook bad!

Read the article. The bug appears to involve a corrupted local database, which is then insufficiently deleting the images. It isn’t about secret Apple policies to retain cloud images.

Did they say it was a local database, i.e., on the owner's device? If so, I missed that in Apple's explanation. I had read it as a database maintained by Apple on Apple servers. 

EDIT: No they didn't say anything about a local database, and in fact did not mention where the "corrupted database" existed AFAICT.  It's a very vague and unclear explanation, isn't it? I could be misunderstanding. 
"This update provides important bug fixes and addresses a rare issue where photos that experienced database corruption could reappear in the Photos library even if they were deleted."

M68000 said:

I’m thinking the database or databases store status and pointers to where the actual files are, which would have to be on server farms somewhere.  How could all this be local and have people freeing up actual space when they delete pictures on their iPhones?

Local but hidden retention might partially explain why there are 3.09GB  stored by Photos on my 64 GB iPad (I realise that it’s way too small) even though i have only ten photos in the app and I have had iCloud photos turned off for several years now. This has always puzzled me.

Music app downloads are also turned off.

This mysterious block of ‘invisible’ Photos data contributes to making iPadOS updates a bit of a chore, as I generally have to remove apps then reinstall them. Maybe there’s bleed-through to that 3.09GB number from images in the Messages app (which I tend to leave alone, but should prune more often).

I hope that this will improve the accuracy of Siri’s responses, although I won’t be holding my breath. We’re already getting a few Siri queries when we’ve said something that was interpretable by Siri as ‘Siri’ after the new ‘standalone’ word reaction was released in iOS 17. I’m not sure how much AI implementation is going to sort that out. Getting Siri do actually do the simple things on the phone that I ask it to would be nice. Maybe I mumble too much…

The what? Never heard of it.