bubblefree

Mike Wuerthele said:

bubblefree said:

If this is true it shows Apple has the worst product update strategy in the whole business and are taking their customers for granted. The MacBook Pro's have processors that are 2 generations behind! Dell and others have introduced 8th gen intel processors months ago. Apple is a like a slow moving dinosaur. What is wrong with a MacBook Pro update every 8 to 12 months? We deserve better than this......

The last MacBook Pro update was... 12 months ago.

And IF this story is true we won't be seeing an update until October at the earliest....... This would mean a 16 month refresh cycle! With all their R&D budget I would expect them to be able to introduce a processor update to their devices within a few months of Intel releasing them onto the market. Given that the 8th gen chips started shipping in late 2017 that seems like wishful thinking!

macxpress said:

bubblefree said:

If this is true it shows Apple has the worst product update strategy in the whole business and are taking their customers for granted. The MacBook Pro's have processors that are 2 generations behind! Dell and others have introduced 8th gen intel processors months ago. Apple is a like a slow moving dinosaur. What is wrong with a MacBook Pro update every 8 to 12 months? We deserve better than this......

If there's nothing significant to update the MacBook Pro to then what should Apple do? Apple should just update the MacBook Pro for the sake of just saying we updated it?

But there is something to update MacBook Pro's with... the 8th gen of intel processors which are much faster than the 6th and 7th generations. The 8th gen devices were released in October of last year and updated in April of this year! IF it is true that MacBook Pro's won't be updated at WWDC then it would be a wasted opportunity to get these devices to be competitive. Apple used to move quickly when updating Mac devices. We can see with the Mac Mini and others that this desire has gone. They are no longer hungry.

If this is true it shows Apple has the worst product update strategy in the whole business and are taking their customers for granted. The MacBook Pro's have processors that are 2 generations behind! Dell and others have introduced 8th gen intel processors months ago. Apple is a like a slow moving dinosaur. What is wrong with a MacBook Pro update every 8 to 12 months? We deserve better than this......

What a misguided, arrogant and condescending article! If I have legitimate concerns about the course Apple have taken I am now a "hater". Apparently if I feel Apple could and should have taken a different design decision I am now a critic "pointing to heavy, thick models aimed at Windows video gamers, which clearly sell in obscurely small volumes and do not appear to be very profitable at all."

The sad reality is that many of the comments posted on this site and others reflect legitimate concerns from many different types of customer about the choices Apple made. I agree with many of those comments. By moving to an all USB C machine Apple is forcing it's customers to choose between a last generation machine that supports the legacy ports you so handily and easily deride or a machine built on more modern Skylake technology but which supports no outside peripherals without a large assortments of adapters or dongles. You yourself point out that Apple has sold over a billion iOS devices that have all shipped with USB A connectors and that the majority of PCs and Macs have USB A ports. "That effectively slows down how fast Apple can transition away from USB-A on its iOS power adapters." This clearly acknowledges that Apple needs a transitional strategy and expecting users to buy into the dongle / adapter concept isn't a strategy but a misguided fall back position that is clearly flawed. Why would Apple drop the price of their adapters by 40% soon after introduction if it isn't an acknowledgement that they got it all horribly wrong?

It didn't need to be like this. Apple could have built a transitional unit with both USB C and USB A ports when Skylake chips came out over 6 months ago to allow people a choice of how they would transition to the new USB C standard. And Apple has done this many times before. It's not new.

Unfortunately the flawed belief that everyone wants the thinnest laptop possible means that other design compromises have also occurred. I used the new keyboard in an Apple store a few days ago and this one design decision is enough for me to hold off on buying the machine. Again it's not necessary. I am happy with the size of the current MB pro's, especially when the alternative is losing a great keyboard.

It is most unfortunate that your article is written in such a way that it is not balanced or acknowledges the legitimate concerns that many people have expressed about these machines.

Wow more spin? Who would have thought? So comparing sales of the thinnest and lightest computer they sell with 2 USB C ports introduced when the 2 Air models were still available is pertinent to the sales of their main workhorse machine that hasn't been updated forever and is late to market? It's like comparing sales of a Smart car to a ford pick up truck! Of course there will be strong sales ... up to a point. When you starve the market for a machine with the latest chips then having a bounce out of the gate is almost a certainty. We will see if it continues or whether Apple is affected by lower sales and has to rethink the strategy......