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Lower-priced Apple external display rumored to be on the way
I understand what's the complain, at the same time (2019 to now) you rarely have monitors that does local dimming with true 10-bit. Don't expect the current XDR to be above entry-level for professional use which will costs more than $5,000 if you dare.CheeseFreeze said:
This is true. Apple’s Pro monitor sits in no man’s land as previously stated. I know post production experts and professional colorists and they all do not choose Apple’s offering, regardless of budget.9secondkox2 said:
Great point. And if you’re a colorist, a graphic designer who needs to match exact color, editing for IMAX, or actually care about producing top quality and consistency visuals, you’ll have a top notch monitor.shareef777 said:
lol, riiiiiiight, "tv stuff". You do realize there're monitors yet more expensive then the XDR. Not saying the XDR is worth it (far from it), but some photo/video professionals spend north of $5k on a monitor.darkvader said:shareef777 said:The best display is the XDR and it’s not meant for people in general, it’s meant for professionals. Just because it’s not sold in volumes doesn’t mean higher end (low volume) products shouldn’t be made. The average monitor today is 2k one going for ~$500. Apple offering a “lower cost” smaller XDR at $2500 doesn’t fit that average, not even on the high end. The high end consumer monitor is a monster 49 inch curved one by Samsung and it “only” goes for $2000.An M1 iMac sans Mac parts is EXACTLY what people would go for. $700 for the 24”, $1000 for a 27”, and $1500 for a 32”.No, it's not meant for professionals. I work with video professionals, folks who do TV stuff that there's a decent chance you've seen.They don't have monitors like that ridiculous $5000 Apple screen.Those are for rich idiots.Apples display is actually on the low rent end of the equation, though they do a great job of making it punch above its weight class/price tag.
Apple either has to re-position its current offering for a different audience at a lower price point, or introduce a professional monitor for the same price (or more expensive if that finds an addressable market) that meets professional requirements.
Of course with mini-LED the biggest issue will disappear.
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Lower-priced Apple external display rumored to be on the way
He's a troll for the most part, last time I saw him he thinks XPS17 have just as a good spec as the M1 16".danox said:
Then buy that non curated LG crap, Apple will sell a monitor at a profit, they don’t do lost leaders or marketshare.darkvader said:opinion said:Half the price is still to high. Sometimes I think that there is no point in making the best products if people can’t afford them.10% of the price is still too high. $350 would be about reasonable for a good 27" monitor, you can get a nice 27" 4K LG for about that.I suppose Apple might charge $500 for a monitor about that quality, but it would be a ripoff.
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Lower-priced Apple external display rumored to be on the way
That Eizo costs $30,000 but I'm sure that's too much for a guy still uses an Apple II.shareef777 said:
lol, riiiiiiight, "tv stuff". You do realize there're monitors yet more expensive then the XDR. Not saying the XDR is worth it (far from it), but some photo/video professionals spend north of $5k on a monitor.darkvader said:shareef777 said:The best display is the XDR and it’s not meant for people in general, it’s meant for professionals. Just because it’s not sold in volumes doesn’t mean higher end (low volume) products shouldn’t be made. The average monitor today is 2k one going for ~$500. Apple offering a “lower cost” smaller XDR at $2500 doesn’t fit that average, not even on the high end. The high end consumer monitor is a monster 49 inch curved one by Samsung and it “only” goes for $2000.An M1 iMac sans Mac parts is EXACTLY what people would go for. $700 for the 24”, $1000 for a 27”, and $1500 for a 32”.No, it's not meant for professionals. I work with video professionals, folks who do TV stuff that there's a decent chance you've seen.They don't have monitors like that ridiculous $5000 Apple screen.Those are for rich idiots. -
Lower-priced Apple external display rumored to be on the way
Just a reminder that XDR is only at entry-level in professional monitors. That’s already $5,000shareef777 said:The best display is the XDR and it’s not meant for people in general, it’s meant for professionals. Just because it’s not sold in volumes doesn’t mean higher end (low volume) products shouldn’t be made. The average monitor today is 2k one going for ~$500. Apple offering a “lower cost” smaller XDR at $2500 doesn’t fit that average, not even on the high end. The high end consumer monitor is a monster 49 inch curved one by Samsung and it “only” goes for $2000.An M1 iMac sans Mac parts is EXACTLY what people would go for. $700 for the 24”, $1000 for a 27”, and $1500 for a 32”. -
What to expect from Apple in early 2022 - MacBook Air, Mac mini, iMac Pro, and more
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A Mac mini with M1 Max is probably the most we could really expect. Essentially, just stick the MBP16 guts into a Mac mini box. No slotted RAM, and no slotted NAND. So, get more than you think you need for Apple's devices. This is perhaps not a bad option. The current Mac mini box has stackable docks and storage for it. It would make it somewhat neater on a desk except for me power bricks relative to a big box.bobolicious said:I really like the industrial design of the trash can, and if the new silicon is much thermally cooler perhaps there could be a more viable and upgradable (or an upgrade kit perhaps including fuller dual gpu support?) prosumer headless mac option in that kind of compact desktop format. Of course such might also suggest a mini max, and please oh please give us slotted ram, storage & gpu (or egpu) upgradeability options in suit with Mr. Cook's (and shareholders') recently expressed enthusiasm for the right to repair...
An M1 Max Duo would fit inside a Mac mini box, but it's a stretch for Apple to do this imo. eGPU support for non Apple GPUs isn't going to happen on Apple Silicon. Maybe there is a chance that Apple would ship an Apple Silicon GPU as an eGPU and a MPX GPU for a Mac Pro, but wait and see. Apple's product marketing folks really don't seem to understand why people buy big boxes, and even who buys those big boxes. This half sized Apple Silicon Mac Pro is not a good sign imo. It's fine if they had an actual lineup of mini, small, mid and large headless desktops, but they may put all their eggs into this one half size Mac Pro box, which will only reduce the market size of people who buy it.
MPX won't be necessary when you're building 4 dies of GPUs, nor we have that much room after two of them, so shrinking is possible and doesn't mean it'll lose that much of expandability.
Apple Silicon workstations will be a rethink rather than pure improvements. A traditional "multi-core, massive RAM" mindset will be challenged in some degree, as more workloads are moving toward GPUs. Many of those traditional specs looks good on paper but never had practical use, and Apple want their products to make profit, too, especially when they make their own silicon.
