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kmarei said:

StrangeDays said:

kmarei said:

just please give me anything that is not camera related.
it seems that's the only thing they keep focusing on
2 cameras. now 3 cameras, now 4 cameras
we are not all professional photographers. 
i take pics i usually see on my iphone screen or on my ipad
i don't need terrapixel quality with 99x optical zoom , and carl zeis diamond quartz lens
 with a huge camera bump on the back that makes the phone rock when i put it on a table

Yeah nah yeah, I’d rather have better pictures that look better on very large displays (think AVP resolutions) than nurture OCD about the phone not laying perfectly flat on a table. The use case of better photos far outweighs the “lay flat on table” use case, any day of the week. 

The part I don't get is, for the users that really need 48 megapixels and above.
and need the highest quality possible 
why not get a real camera with real optical  lenses ?
a tiny sensor on an iPhone will NEVER give you the same quality as a full size sensor 
no matter how many cameras they add to the back of the iPhone

just like if audio is your greatest feature, you don't use an iphone
You get a high end high res audio player

May be, you have forgotten the phrase "The best camera is the one that you have on your person". We all carry the smartphones with us, whereever we go. Carrying a real camera (Point and shoot, DSLR, whatever that is) is NOT practical for most of the occasions. Hence the need for improving the camera in the smartphones to the maximum extent possible, including design choices/compromises w.r.t. camera bumps.

kmarei said:

mike1 said:

kmarei said:

just please give me anything that is not camera related.
it seems that's the only thing they keep focusing on
2 cameras. now 3 cameras, now 4 cameras
we are not all professional photographers. 
i take pics i usually see on my iphone screen or on my ipad
i don't need terrapixel quality with 99x optical zoom , and carl zeis diamond quartz lens
 with a huge camera bump on the back that makes the phone rock when i put it on a table

Good that you don't need to upgrade then. For many of us, the camera is the single most important feature and a core function of the phone. And yes. We look at photos on screens far larger than an iPad and sometimes want to high-quality prints. In addition, any improvement to the optical zoom would be greatly appreciated.

I highly doubt the number of people that need top quality pictures, AND insist on using an iPhone as opposed to a proper camera, is not higher than 10% tops, and I'm being generous.
for the other 90% they couldn't care less, and would much rather have a thicker phone with a 2-3 day battery, and no fugly hump on the back.
I would be interested if there was ever a survey that showed what the highest requested features are on smart phones 

I don't agree with the first line of your post, but I agree with the rest of your post. People do want lots of battery endurance for their smartphones. That is one of the key reasons (probably the second in order of priority, first being cameras) for Pro Max being the most popular option among the iPhones.

lam92103 said:

mikethemartian said:

I can somewhat understand smaller companies getting suckered but I would expect Samsung and Sony to be smarter than that.

I assume that is why Samsung phones have a 50MP camera sensor since a while now, but Apple has nothing even close to that

Apple's iPhone Pro Max has 48MP camera sensor for last 2 generations. And MP count does not mean much when it comes to smartphone photography anyway. Pixel size, ISP, software processing logic ALL play a significant role in the quality of photos taken by smartphones.

StrangeDays said:

RigiDigi said:

The guy who said 'can't innovate any more, my ass' with the macPro trashcan? Please ...

The MP was innovative, they just bet on a different type of processing power rising to the top, and on that instance, bet wrong. That happens when you take chances. What have you done that’s worth bragging about? Surely you too have decades of successes for every miss, yes?

Isn't that a silly qualification needed for anyone to express their opinions about anything in their life?

danox said:

Xed said:

StrangeDays said:

Good thing I don’t know anybody who gives a shirt about that, let alone any normals. 

You know you can like Apple products -and- want them to be easier for DIYers to repair and upgrade.

I found the video interesting and I'm glad that these are easier to repair. 

Why so that a market in stolen parts is made? The fantasy of a little mom and pop shop fixing high end electronic devices is coming to an end, future SOC'S and devices like the Apple Vision are getting smaller due publics demand smaller and more powerful equipment.

If my iPhone, Mac Studio Ultra or XDR monitor go down Apple will be the one's to fix them.

Yet another short-sighted post on this topic. This is NOT about people who would engage Apple's repair services whenever required. Nobody is taking that option away from you. It is about people who needs to get their devices repaired outside warranty or people who do not have access to Apple stores within a reasonable distance. And @Xed's point is about extending the useful lifespan of those devices by repairing them instead of abandoning them just because Apple would not repair or the cost to repair is prohibitively expensive. The real world needs are much bigger than your narrow minds could imagine.