muthuk_vanalingam

SuntanIronMan said:

22july2013 said:

I believe I've read on another website that the iPhone 16e is "assembled in India" rather than the other iPhone 16 models being "assembled in China." That's all I need to know to make my decision, because I oppose genocide and support democracy, freedom and human rights.

You a correct. All the variations of the iPhone 16 (no-suffix/Plus/Pro/Pro Max/e) are assembled in India. iPhones are, of course, assembled in China as well though. You could get an assembled in India iPhone 16e. Or you could get an assembled in China iPhone 16e.

(Are you in America? I ask because):

With the US tariffs of Chinese goods and whatnot, it would make sense for Apple to send the India assembled iPhone 16e to America. However, I’m not sure if that’s been confirmed yet. I guess we will find out for sure very soon though. I’m also very interested in what country the iPhones 16e will be from.

AmberNeely said:

muthuk_vanalingam said:

AmberNeely said:

Marvin said:

After using larger displays for a while, the 5.4" mini display felt cramped, especially when typing in portrait but the 5.8" on the iPhone X felt like the largest usable single-handed size. 

I'd be super-duper curious if dudes were the primary people polled for that. My iPhone 11 was 6.1 on the diagonal and it hurt my hands to use one-handed. I get that I have tiny little baby hands (I'm only 5'2!) but I feel like the mini audience was predominantly (but not exclusively) female.

I noticed that the "below 6" option came in as the second highest choice, though, so. 

If they bring the mini back for the 17 (this is extremely wishful thinking) I will definitely snag it the day it goes up for preorder.

Also, Apple directly compares the iPhone 16e and iPhone 11/12 on the 16e splash page. I really think its geared toward those folks (of which there are still a ton), but I do agree that they're probably also targeting iPhone 14 owners a bit.

Even people with tiny hands can use the larger phones without any issues. In my view, comfort of handling a phone with single hand is not as important as people make it out to be. Size (and even weight) is not an issue when you use both the hands to use the phone. It is just a mental adjustment that people need to make.

In the Android world, there does not exist a decent phone with size similar to iPhone mini series (12/13) in the last 5 years. Apple has not launched successor to iPhone 13 mini for 3 years already. And SE is gone as well. So, the writing is on the wall when it comes to availability of compact phones for users. They are becoming extinct due to market forces. Sooner the people get used to the larger phones, the better for them when it comes to options to choose.

It's not an adjustment. It's preference. I would prefer not to use a phone that is 6.1 inches or bigger. They don't fit in my pocket (which is not a mental adjustment, that's just how pants work), and I don't like the way they feel in my hand. I hate the fact that I, a person who doesn't really carry purses or bags around -- I'm a wallet in the pocket kinda gal -- has to suddenly bring a purse to carry my phone so I don't wind up with it swandiving out of my pocket and onto the ground.

I have had larger phones than the mini (see above). I had my iPhone 11 for years and never liked it, purely because of the size. When I got the mini, suddenly toting my phone around felt natural. And here's something to blow your mind -- I use my mini two handed. Because that's the most comfortable. I can use it one-handed, but I'm a "using BOTH thumbs to text" kind of girl. My hands fit comfortably two handed on a 5.4" phone. Again, my hands are small. Like way smaller than average. My length from base of palm to middle finger is just under 5.8" -- a full inch shorter than the average American woman's hand. Width wise my hand is about 2.75", again, about a quarter inch shorter than the average American woman's hand. 

I absolutely hate the idea of phones encroaching on phablet sizes. Some of us actually just use our phones as -- and I know this is going to sound crazy -- phones. My #1 thing that my phone does is call my sister, best friend, and mom. The #2 thing it does is play microsoft solitare. I text on it a moderate amount, probably way less than the average person, but it's comfortable to text on. My iPhone 11 never was.

When it comes to watching content, I don't actually see that much of a difference between a 5.4-inch screen and a 6.1-inch screen. They're both too tiny for me, personally, to enjoy watching a YouTube video, or god forbid something longer like a movie. I own a 24" imac, a 42" television, and a 100" projector connected to an Apple TV. Why am I going to give myself myopia to watch something on an inferior screen?

Data shows that the iPhone Plus lineup is widely disliked. The only difference between a base-model iPhone and an iPhone Plus is the size. A lot of people -- I'd argue probably the majority -- don't want a big phone. The fact of the matter is that's not necessarily what the market wants. The market probably doesn't actually care about a phone being bigger, just that it's better. The bigger screen is just a byproduct.

And, I suppose ultimately it's not even that I expect Apple to tailor specifically to me. The iPhone SE 4 would have been bigger than an iPhone mini. It would have been a compromise for me anyway. The point is that there are a lot of people, including tons of them on this very forum post, who are like "Aw, I was expecting the SE4. This sucks. Oh well. Guess I'll hold onto my phone for another year or two." I'm in that camp. I'll keep my mini and see what happens down the line.

I dunno, it was an opinion piece.

People are gonna like what they like. You can like a bigger phone, I don't begrudge you. I'm happy if you've found something that works for you. The rest of us are going to have to compromise. And we'll get over it, but I mean, we're allowed to be disappointed.

randominternetperson said:

Stabitha_Christie said:

msuberly said:

robin huber said:

Smart move. Actions have consequences. Though I suspect the Britons will not rise up in outrage. They tolerate a much lower bar for privacy than Americans—camera tracking in the public space in the UK is second only to China. British cop shows often feature sequences where folks are tracked continuously on monitors using a combination of CCTV and cell phone signals. 

No. A real consequence would be Apple pulling its entire product line and support from the UK. Then 67 million people could decide if this action by their government is warranted. “You will lose all Apple products” carries way more weight than “you will lose end-to-end encryption for various features”, knowing most consumers have no idea what this means. 

Not possible you say? Why not, Apple did it with Russia for reasons that had nothing to do with any of its products.

The net result would be Tim Cook and likely the entire board being let go. 

Apple is a publicly traded company and the executive team has a fiduciary responsibility to its shareholders to maximize value of their investments.  Throwing a tantrum and leaving a country is not an option as Apple would take a financial hit. 

The comparison to Russia is not relevant. Apple legally had to stop selling its products in Russia due to sanctions. 

Nonsense.

Maybe some shareholders would call for a vote on overturning this and/or replacing the board. Then the shareholders (most of whom are mutual funds and other institutional investors, but lots are people like you and me) would vote on that and say, "Nah, we're good, keep up the good work, TC and Co."

jayweiss said:

I’d like to remind you that the iPhone SE does not have MagSafe either. Please stop whining about it. 

charlesn said:

"If you're confused about who the iPhone 16e is for, you're not alone —"

No confusion for me, and here's why: if you look at the world mobile phone sales charts in recent years, you'll find four iPhones in the top ten: the regular iPhone is usually the world's #1. And it's followed in the rankings, at various numbers, by the Pro Max, the Pro and finally the iPhone Plus. Nowhere on the list has the SE appeared--it's the perennial last place phone for Apple. But if there's one thing you should expect of an aggressively low-priced phone that's presumably less profitable, it would be volume sales. The SE did not deliver that. You may have loved the SE for all kinds of reasons, which are still perfectly valid, and even though it made business sense in theory, it didn't work out that way in actual sales.

People seem to forget that Apple is a for-profit business and if it cancels a product, it's not to piss you off personally, and it's not because Apple is stupid, it's only because that product didn't sell. You think Apple is happy to EOL a product like the iPhone Mini after just two years? It probably never even amortized its development and tooling costs for that phone. But when a product tanks in sales as badly as the Mini, it has no choice. If you're going to be mad about it, be made at all the iPhone buyers who had two years to support the Mini and chose other models instead. 

It seems to me that Apple's thinking with the 16e replacing the SE is pretty straight forward: it's a phone that's a whole lot closer than the SE to the world's best-selling regular iPhone, but sells for $200 less. That's it. What distinguishes the 16e most from any cheaper phone that Apple has ever sold as new is that it contains the most current processor. For this reason, I think the "e" phone will be upgraded annually, like the rest of the iPhone lineup. Of course, compromises had to be made in creating an iPhone 16 that could be sold for $200 less. You could argue that this or that compromise makes it a deal breaker for you and, as always, you're never wrong about what's a deal breaker for you. Obviously, Apple has made a data-driven decision that the feature set for the 16e will be right for most prospective buyers than not. Did Apple get it right? No one can say yet. But I think we'll have a more informed answer after a few months of sales.