muthuk_vanalingam

Rayz2016 said:

tmay said:

muthuk_vanalingam said:

asdasd said:

muthuk_vanalingam said:

mvmaastricht said:

asdasd said:

mvmaastricht said:

dotcomcto said:

I really want to hear Apple announce that M1 apps from the Mac App Store will be able to run directly on the M1 iPad Pro. I just don't get the purpose of a 16 GB RAM/1 or 2 TB M1 iPad Pro unless the device will be able to run Mac apps (vs 8 GB RAM/256 or 512 GB models). I suppose I get it for high end video editing, but other than that, I don't get its purpose otherwise.

I think Apple will, but not the way you think or hope for, or anyone seems to be aware of. 

It seems obvious to me that Apple will make the iPad Pro instantly dual boot: as soon as you’ll connect your mouse or an external screen, iPadOS will offer to switch to macOS, effectively converting you 13” iPad in a 13” ‘MacBook’. Why not? That wouldn’t be a compromise, for the screen as well as the rest of the hardware of the iPad Pro is perfectly capable of running a desktop class OS…   

Disconnecting you screen could simply offer you to return to iOS…

It surprises me that no one else on the internet seems to consider this possibility…?

It’s been mentioned here dozens of times. And still It’s an incredibly stupid idea, like all the merging of macOS and iPadOS ideas. 

I don’t think you’ve read my comment. I’m explicitly NOT talking about merging. I’m talking about being able to distinctly run either macOS or iPadOS on the same device. The iPad Pro (especially the 12.9” version and more especially the exorbitant 16Gb 1Tb+ version) is ready for it.

Make no mistake - he read your comment because the exact same thing has been suggested by GeorgeBMac/myself and few others in other threads. Many people are against this idea as well, among other ideas (of merging iPad OS and MacOS), but their reasoning seems to be questionable so far to me. I still hope Apple will implement this soon. Fingers crossed.

My language was intemperate, so I apologise for that. But it is not going to happen.  Apple does not want to produce a macOS device which is bad at running macOS. And it already sells laptops within that price range which are good at running macOS. Dual boot won't happen. 

No need to apologize, I didn't find your previous comment as offensive one. I usually enjoy reading your comments, unlike few members who are hostile/ultra-aggressive towards others for posting even mild criticism of Apple.

Coming back to the point, why do you think the highest specced iPad Pro with M1 is bad at running macOS? 

M1 - Tick
16 GB RAM - Tick
13" display - Tick
1 TB Storage - Tick
Keyboard/Mouse - Can be made as pre-requisite for using MacOS

What exactly is missing in that highest end iPad Pro which would make it bad at running macOS?

Uhm, Apple isn't going to potentially fuck up the premier device in the "tablet" category in an attempt of making it a 2 in 1, so no, no Mac OS on iPad. Most people using the iPad don't want the complexity of a desktop OS, and that is what Mac OS would have to bring.

If there ever is a 2 in 1 from Apple, it will be a completely new device, almost certainly with its own OS, requiring that the developer deliver an app specifically for that OS.

The problem, as Apple sees it, is that the switch to their own processor line across the board  doesn’t change the fact that this will still compromise two product lines. 

The Mac will be constrained because Apple has to consider what future applications may have to run on an iPad and constrain developers accordingly. 

The iPad will be constrained in terms of weight and size because Apple has to remember that it always has to run MacOS. 

Not sure if you are mixing up 2 different ideas - Idea 1: Merging iPadOS with MacOS. Idea 2: Keep iPadOS (touch based) and MacOS (non-touch, works only with keyboard and Mouse) completely separate as they exist today, and allow dual-boot option (for those who need it) in the highest end iPad Pro depending on the accessories attached to it.

The points you mentioned are applicable to idea 1, i.e. Merging iPadOS with MacOS. For implementing idea 2, none of the points that you mentioned would be applicable. There is absolutely NO change needed in the iPad Pro (M1, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD) hardware to make it capable of running MacOS. 

Again, I am not getting what exactly is getting compromised in this scenario?

asdasd said:

muthuk_vanalingam said:

mvmaastricht said:

asdasd said:

mvmaastricht said:

dotcomcto said:

I really want to hear Apple announce that M1 apps from the Mac App Store will be able to run directly on the M1 iPad Pro. I just don't get the purpose of a 16 GB RAM/1 or 2 TB M1 iPad Pro unless the device will be able to run Mac apps (vs 8 GB RAM/256 or 512 GB models). I suppose I get it for high end video editing, but other than that, I don't get its purpose otherwise.

I think Apple will, but not the way you think or hope for, or anyone seems to be aware of. 

It seems obvious to me that Apple will make the iPad Pro instantly dual boot: as soon as you’ll connect your mouse or an external screen, iPadOS will offer to switch to macOS, effectively converting you 13” iPad in a 13” ‘MacBook’. Why not? That wouldn’t be a compromise, for the screen as well as the rest of the hardware of the iPad Pro is perfectly capable of running a desktop class OS…   

Disconnecting you screen could simply offer you to return to iOS…

It surprises me that no one else on the internet seems to consider this possibility…?

It’s been mentioned here dozens of times. And still It’s an incredibly stupid idea, like all the merging of macOS and iPadOS ideas. 

I don’t think you’ve read my comment. I’m explicitly NOT talking about merging. I’m talking about being able to distinctly run either macOS or iPadOS on the same device. The iPad Pro (especially the 12.9” version and more especially the exorbitant 16Gb 1Tb+ version) is ready for it.

Make no mistake - he read your comment because the exact same thing has been suggested by GeorgeBMac/myself and few others in other threads. Many people are against this idea as well, among other ideas (of merging iPad OS and MacOS), but their reasoning seems to be questionable so far to me. I still hope Apple will implement this soon. Fingers crossed.

My language was intemperate, so I apologise for that. But it is not going to happen.  Apple does not want to produce a macOS device which is bad at running macOS. And it already sells laptops within that price range which are good at running macOS. Dual boot won't happen. 

No need to apologize, I didn't find your previous comment as offensive one. I usually enjoy reading your comments, unlike few members who are hostile/ultra-aggressive towards others for posting even mild criticism of Apple.

Coming back to the point, why do you think the highest specced iPad Pro with M1 is bad at running macOS? 

M1 - Tick
16 GB RAM - Tick
13" display - Tick
1 TB Storage - Tick
Keyboard/Mouse - Can be made as pre-requisite for using MacOS

What exactly is missing in that highest end iPad Pro which would make it bad at running macOS?

mvmaastricht said:

asdasd said:

mvmaastricht said:

dotcomcto said:

I really want to hear Apple announce that M1 apps from the Mac App Store will be able to run directly on the M1 iPad Pro. I just don't get the purpose of a 16 GB RAM/1 or 2 TB M1 iPad Pro unless the device will be able to run Mac apps (vs 8 GB RAM/256 or 512 GB models). I suppose I get it for high end video editing, but other than that, I don't get its purpose otherwise.

I think Apple will, but not the way you think or hope for, or anyone seems to be aware of. 

It seems obvious to me that Apple will make the iPad Pro instantly dual boot: as soon as you’ll connect your mouse or an external screen, iPadOS will offer to switch to macOS, effectively converting you 13” iPad in a 13” ‘MacBook’. Why not? That wouldn’t be a compromise, for the screen as well as the rest of the hardware of the iPad Pro is perfectly capable of running a desktop class OS…   

Disconnecting you screen could simply offer you to return to iOS…

It surprises me that no one else on the internet seems to consider this possibility…?

It’s been mentioned here dozens of times. And still It’s an incredibly stupid idea, like all the merging of macOS and iPadOS ideas. 

I don’t think you’ve read my comment. I’m explicitly NOT talking about merging. I’m talking about being able to distinctly run either macOS or iPadOS on the same device. The iPad Pro (especially the 12.9” version and more especially the exorbitant 16Gb 1Tb+ version) is ready for it.

Make no mistake - he read your comment because the exact same thing has been suggested by GeorgeBMac/myself and few others in other threads. Many people are against this idea as well, among other ideas (of merging iPad OS and MacOS), but their reasoning seems to be questionable so far to me. I still hope Apple will implement this soon. Fingers crossed.

asdasd said:

mvmaastricht said:

dotcomcto said:

I really want to hear Apple announce that M1 apps from the Mac App Store will be able to run directly on the M1 iPad Pro. I just don't get the purpose of a 16 GB RAM/1 or 2 TB M1 iPad Pro unless the device will be able to run Mac apps (vs 8 GB RAM/256 or 512 GB models). I suppose I get it for high end video editing, but other than that, I don't get its purpose otherwise.

I think Apple will, but not the way you think or hope for, or anyone seems to be aware of. 

It seems obvious to me that Apple will make the iPad Pro instantly dual boot: as soon as you’ll connect your mouse or an external screen, iPadOS will offer to switch to macOS, effectively converting you 13” iPad in a 13” ‘MacBook’. Why not? That wouldn’t be a compromise, for the screen as well as the rest of the hardware of the iPad Pro is perfectly capable of running a desktop class OS…   

Disconnecting you screen could simply offer you to return to iOS…

It surprises me that no one else on the internet seems to consider this possibility…?

It’s been mentioned here dozens of times. And still It’s an incredibly stupid idea, like all the merging of macOS and iPadOS ideas. 

I still don't get why it's an incredibly stupid idea. More features for those who "need" it and people who don't need it can choose to not use it. Only downside from Apple's shareholder's point of view (which is the majority view in this site) - Apple will not get an opportunity to sell 2 devices (an iPad Pro and Macbook) to the same person and will need to settle with selling just one device (an iPad Pro). But that consideration will be contrary to Apple's ethos - If you don't cannibalize your own products, someone else will do it.

Beats said:

CloudTalkin said:

Beats said:

Apple needs to jump on this with an exclusive deal. Android runs games like sh** anyway. 

Bud, Sony isn't doing any exclusive deals with Apple or anyone else.  Exclusivity deals would only hinder Sony's efforts.  Sony wants to get their mobile/clould/PC gaming initiatives running to catch up with Microsoft.  They got caught flat-footed with MS's Game Pass.  Xbox Game Pass is currently handing Sony's equivalent Playstation Now service it's ass in a hat.  

Fortunately, it's early in the life of Game Pass and Sony has time to catch up... if they execute properly.  Executing properly means getting their IP in front of the most people possible.  To get their IP in front of the most people possible they have to get PS Now in a better state... and quick.

Apple should make an exclusive deal with Sony. Especially since Japan hates knockoff iPhones/knockoff iPads. 

Do you have reading comprehension issues? Whatever you are asking for - CloudTalkin explained why it WON'T happen and why it is NOT in the interests of Sony to do that. The likelihood of what you are asking for to happen is very slim.