muthuk_vanalingam

zroger73 said:

Wow. They've got a boatload of configurations for sale this round. I wonder where all these are coming from?

Surely they don't keep finding unsold piles of new, old stock.

Then again, the one I ordered and received a few weeks ago was most definitely new-in-box, but it was covered with a layer of dust so thick you couldn't see through it. It has been sitting in a dirty environment for a while.

AppleExposed said:

muthuk_vanalingam said:

AppleExposed said:

Bad news for the 5 people using this iKnockoff.

I remember my Apple hater friend(who thinks he's the smartest person in the world) praised Windows Phones for intergrating XBox Live accounts.

Seriously though, Microsoft can still support and develop new phones even with 1% marketshare. They waved the white flag back when they had something like 5% marketshare. Apple never folded under this kind of pressure. Shows how feeble these companies really are.

Couple of points:
1. Since when did Windows phones become knock offs?
2. Apple never gave up with 5% market share - true. But why would they give up when they have the most valuable TOP 5% of the market? And why shouldn't Microsoft give up when they had the least valuable bottom 5% of the market? 

1. When they stopped making original Windows Phones and started making iPhone ripoffs like android.

2. How is this relevant to anything. Goal post moving much?

1. Any specific examples?

2. I asked a question relevant to the point, that was mentioned by you "Apple didn't give up with 5% market share, but Microsoft did". What is wrong in providing a context under which they took the decisions that they had to? Windows Phone was just NOT financially viable to persist with for Microsoft. Apple has also abandoned products which were financially NOT viable. This specific criticism of Microsoft was unfair IMHO, as far as I am concerned.

AppleExposed said:

Bad news for the 5 people using this iKnockoff.

I remember my Apple hater friend(who thinks he's the smartest person in the world) praised Windows Phones for intergrating XBox Live accounts.

Seriously though, Microsoft can still support and develop new phones even with 1% marketshare. They waved the white flag back when they had something like 5% marketshare. Apple never folded under this kind of pressure. Shows how feeble these companies really are.

AppleExposed said:

muthuk_vanalingam said:

AppleExposed said:

muthuk_vanalingam said:

AppleExposed said:

Here's some more "oxymorons" I've noticed from the iKnockoff crowd:

"Apple is too expensive"
But criticizes Apple for not adding more to the XR. Like how it needs a 1080p screen(for some reason), OLED etc. which would drive the price much higher.

Ostrich and sand??? With the benefit of hindsight, it is now easy to figure out that Apple got it wrong with respect to features and pricing of Xr. Xr is supposed to be the successor to iPhone 8 plus, but it was a side grade (design and SoC upgraded, display and camera downgraded), not a proper upgrade. It still would have been fine if Apple had priced it accordingly. But that didn't happen, hence Apple trying hard with promotional offers to increase sales. And revenue shortage purely due to lack of iphone sales. To even deny these basic facts is to keep the head firmly in the sand like an ostrich. 

"Not a proper upgrade"

So you're asking for more? iPhone XR starting at $899? Better idea?

iPhone XR is the most popular iPhone right now(according to APPLE not the Verge or some fat youtuber). So not sure why you're denying the facts while giving your opinions?

Am I asking for more? Yes. For an additional $150? No, thanks. It should have had those for $750 to begin with. I am sure you will say that "people like me who ask more from Apple have a wrong entitled mindset" and Apple was spot on with features and pricing for Xr. This is where the real problem lie. Apple and its shareholders might have an mindset that Apple is entitled to 38% margin, even in a "matured" smartphone market. But ordinary customers seem to disagree with that entitlement in large numbers.

Disagree with what I say and need proof??? Don't look anywhere beyond last quarter original/revised guidelines, Apple CEO's letter to investors, unusual heavy promotions this year which was NOT seen in previous years. 

iPhone XR outsold the other X models.

So the customers have spoken. If you ran Apple, guidance would have been much worse since you believe Apple should have erased most of their XR profit.

"iPhone 5c is a failure" deja vu?

AppleExposed said:

Either way, nothing is free. I would call the bigger, bezel-less, Liquid Retina an upgrade. Not sure how you came to the conclusion that it was a "downgrade".

Also I don't believe Apple made the XR as an iPhone 8 upgrade. More like a reason for android users to switch and an entry into iOS. Same purpose the 5c served.

Regarding Xr display, it does NOT matter what you/I/anyone in this forum think about it. What the potential buyers of iPhone Xr thought about it? That is the key here. People can easily see that Xr has a 326 ppi display Vs iPhone 7 Plus/8 Plus display with 401ppi. It is a downgrade in that aspect. Same with dual camera Vs single camera. Once Apple went with dual camera in iPhone 7 plus more than 2 years back, it is NOT going to be easy to convince the mass market that single camera in Xr is better than dual camera that they already have in their hands.

You & @Raderthekat don't believe that Xr is NOT an successor to iPhone 8 Plus? Why? It was meant for Android switchers??? 40 million of them??? That too the people who already have FHD display in sub $150 phones? That too for $750 with Xr? Entry into iOS at $750? Seriously???

Let us talk about the potential customers of Apple who were planning to buy iPhones in the holiday quarter. They mostly owned one of the 6/6 Plus/7/7 Plus/8/8 Plus. As per you & Raderthekat, Xs is a replacement for iPhone 6/7/8 and Xs Max is the replacement iPhone 6 Plus/7 Plus/8 Plus. What about people who did not want to shell out >$1K for their replacement phone? About 40 million of them (https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/10/15/iphone-xr-will-propel-not-just-holiday-iphone-sales-but-drive-early-2019-to-new-heights). This is where Xr filled in the gap for those with 6 Plus/7 Plus/(to a lesser extent 8 Plus) because it is similar to them in dimensions. Those with iPhone 6/7/(to a lesser extent 8) were out of luck if they wanted a smaller & cheaper option. So to suggest that Xr is NOT a successor to iPhone 6 Plus/7 Plus/8 Plus lineup is to ignore the ground reality.