timpetus

Amazing. We've gone from the hidden port on the early Apple Watch that had such potential to having to buy a $300 USB2 dongle that adds no useful functionality whatsoever. Who at Apple is greenlighting these products? Have they somehow never heard of goodwill? This product is creating badwill with developers, who are possibly the single most important group of people outside Apple employees to turning the AVP into a success.

I understand how Apple could expect that people would remember their passcodes, given 99.9999999999999% of people already have a cell phone and they'll just use the passcode from that. Still, there should really be a way to reset it using another device on the same Apple ID.

beowulfschmidt said:

I realize there's very little incentive for them to actually do so, but I sorely wish auto manufacturers would consistently provide a spot to actually place a phone that is secure, isn't in the way, and provides charging and cooling.

The other reason they won't is that they're damned if they do, damned if they don't when it comes to screen visibility for the driver. Put it in a place where the driver can see their phone? Lawsuit. Put it where they can't? Consumers will hate it and it will hurt the manufacturer's reputation instead of helping it. Lose-lose.

retrogusto said:

williamh said:

omasou said:

quakerotis said:

It's not Apple's, it's Masimo's.

Joe Kiani, the CEO of Masimo who contends Apple infringes on his company's patents, said in an interview on January 18 that Apple is "masquerading what they are offering to consumers as a reliable, medical pulse oximeter, even though it's not." Kiani maintains "I really feel wholeheartedly that consumers are better off without it."

According to Masimo:

Apple's implementation is infringing on Masimo patent = T
Apple tech is neither a reliable and/or medical pulse oximeter = T

Then a simple truth table says T + T = T and therefore Masimo implementation is neither a reliable and/or medical pulse oximeter.

You can make assertions all you want but that doesn't make them true.  Why do would a thinking person just take "according to Masimo" at face value?

We could add According to Masimo:

Apple is "masquerading what they are offering to consumers as a reliable, medical pulse oximeter, even though it's not." = F

From the article (you would know if you read it): Apple advises on its website that the measurements found in the watchOS Blood Oxygen app are "not intended for medical use," and are designed only for "general fitness and wellness purposes."

Kiani maintains "I really feel wholeheartedly that consumers are better off without it." = F

Ok, it's true that he maintains it but he is wrong.  According to the article, a DOCTOR on the flight said ""The Apple Watch helped me to find out the patient had low oxygen saturation."  Do you know better, Dr. Omasou?

I think Omasou is pointing out that Masimo is complaining that Apple is using their tech, and simultaneously complaining that the tech Apple is using (Masimo’s tech) is not very good. 

Yes, what we have here is a communications breakdown between two people who are actually in agreement, but think they aren't.

Masimo is, IMHO, engaging in a bad PR strategy in the court of public opinion. Not only will this hurt their image, it will also not help their legal case one bit. The jury was already 6-1 in favor of Apple last time, and if they continue to make themselves look bad while Apple stays mostly quiet about the issue until it comes to trial again, Apple has a very good chance of winning in the end. Even if Apple loses, they won't be hurt nearly as much by it as Masimo would be; one feature on one of Apple's smaller products won't break the bank, but Masimo has sunk a lot of money into this case already and are defending a patent that is clearly of greater importance to their own business.

Wah, Apple won't let me dictate the way I sell my apps to their customers! Ridiculous. It's their store, they built it, and everyone has to follow the rules while using it. Don't like it? Don't use or develop for iOS, you can stick to other platforms that will likely not allow you to grow as much. Apple offers a certain opportunity, and only you can decide whether or not you like those terms.