KITA

MplsP said:

As a completely new technology I expect there to be a lot of manufacturing issues to work out, especially to begin selling products at scale. We’ve seen virtually nothing beyond rumors for microLED displays so this doesn’t really surprise me.  I would be surprised if the 27” iMac Pro was an early product; I’d expect smaller screens like iPads to come first.

Beats said:

Well at least they're not complete knockoffs. Just give it some time though and they'll adopt Apples "ugly" design and toss the Mentos.

jdb8167 said:

KITA said:

jdb8167 said:

KITA said:

jdb8167 said:

 If these CPUs disappoint you, well you better hope for an ARM transition because Intel isn’t releasing anything better for a while.

I'm not sure why people pretend that AMD doesn't exist and ARM is the only solution.

AMD's 4800U is a 15W 8 core / 16 thread chip with excellent performance that easily beats out Intel's 25W 6 core / 12 thread 10710U.
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What laptops use a 25-28W (or lower if the performance is better) AMD mobile CPU? What is the battery life? I can’t find anything talking about battery life tests and the Ryzen 4000 series. I’m not saying they don’t exist but are they being used by companies like HP, Lenovo and Dell? Customers who need a large and reliable quantity of CPUs to create a flagship. A flagship AMD CPU in the 1.5-1.7 cm (0.60” - 0.67”)  thickness range and weighing about 1.4 kg (3 pounds) would be ideal as a comparison to the 13” MacBook Pro.

AMD might get there but they are just starting out being competitive in the mobile space for the first time. That makes it hard for a company needing millions of CPUs per quarter to design for AMD.

Edit: And I should mention that the Intel Core i7-10710U is a 14 nm part and only supports Intel UHD graphics which is not as strong as the Iris Plus. Not really a one to one comparison.

15 W Ryzen 4000 series chips are just coming to market now from Lenovo, Acer, HP, etc.

The benchmarks are from this Lenovo:



Comparing the AMD and Intel versions of the same laptop:








Slightly better battery life and far better performance from AMD.

As well, the 10710U is a 6 core / 12 thread part. In terms of CPU performance, it can best Ice Lake for single core and multi core applications.

Thanks. Where was that posted?

jdb8167 said:

KITA said:

jdb8167 said:

 If these CPUs disappoint you, well you better hope for an ARM transition because Intel isn’t releasing anything better for a while.

I'm not sure why people pretend that AMD doesn't exist and ARM is the only solution.

AMD's 4800U is a 15W 8 core / 16 thread chip with excellent performance that easily beats out Intel's 25W 6 core / 12 thread 10710U.
[graph removed]

What laptops use a 25-28W (or lower if the performance is better) AMD mobile CPU? What is the battery life? I can’t find anything talking about battery life tests and the Ryzen 4000 series. I’m not saying they don’t exist but are they being used by companies like HP, Lenovo and Dell? Customers who need a large and reliable quantity of CPUs to create a flagship. A flagship AMD CPU in the 1.5-1.7 cm (0.60” - 0.67”)  thickness range and weighing about 1.4 kg (3 pounds) would be ideal as a comparison to the 13” MacBook Pro.

AMD might get there but they are just starting out being competitive in the mobile space for the first time. That makes it hard for a company needing millions of CPUs per quarter to design for AMD.

Edit: And I should mention that the Intel Core i7-10710U is a 14 nm part and only supports Intel UHD graphics which is not as strong as the Iris Plus. Not really a one to one comparison.

AppleInsider said:

 electing to add tenth-generation chips that effectively skip an entire Intel architecture generation is likely viewed as a considerable improvement for power users.