majorsl

lkrupp said:

dysamoria said:

lkrupp said:

Let’s say, for the sake of argument, that these neckbeards cobble together a gizmo that nears the performance of the Mac Pro with similar specs. [...]

You’re calling Linus a neckbeard? Does that term not actually require a neck beard anymore??

What? Is he some kind of techie god to you? He’s a YouTube asshole who makes money creating videos in which he claims to be an expert on everything. He claims he can always do it better, faster than anyone else and his target is usually Apple. Why Apple? Because assholes like him make lots of money trashing Apple on YouTube.

Good lord you're full of it, aren't you?  He's got 4,600+ videos.  Go see how many are about Apple.  As Apple would say, "a very small percentage."  Careful... your bias is showing. Again.

128GB should be discontinued across the entire line and the storage options shifted down at the same price point starting at 256GB.

nht said:

majorsl said:

macxpress said:

majorsl said:

macxpress said:

majorsl said:

Soli said:

majorsl said:

macxpress said:

SpamSandwich said:

canukstorm said:

SpamSandwich said:

The “Pro” designation no longer applies to the MacBook line. They’re all student computers now.

If you'r talking about the entry-level 13" MBP with the 1.4Ghz processors, I would tend to agree.  Not so with the rest of the MBP lineup.

The design and engineering reversal (for the better) that Apple made with the Mac Pro needs to happen throughout the MacBook Pro line. More connections, more expandability.

The current MacBook Pro has more connections than any other Mac laptop ever released. And, nobody really cares about upgrading their Mac except the .00001%. 

Care to back up that number with a source or did you pull it out of thin air in a vein attempt to make a point?

The MBP has 4 FOUR Thunderbolt 3 ports. Since TB3 means that's it's not limited to a VGA, DVI, or other video-limited port it means there are 4 ports that can do video. It also means there are 4 ports that can do power, 4 ports that can do data, and on and on. If you really don't know what Thunderbolt 3 and USB-C are capable of you really should read up on it. We're living in the future it's quite glorious compared to lamenting about the days of data types never having to share. I certainly don't miss the days of ADC and parallel. These notebooks are the most versatile Mac notebooks Apple has ever created, not to mention having the fastest I/O, both internally and externally.

No, I meant the silly claim "nobody really cares about upgrading their Mac except the .00001%."  Saying it as a statement of fact doesn't make it so and I learned a long time ago that people who pump out random percentage numbers are only trying to backup a claim they are unsure of or just trying to sound smart.

But, yes to you.  I'm well aware of the ports & I/O on the MBP - I'm typing on a high-spec'd 15" right now.

Jesus Christ....of course it's an exaggeration but if you think for even the slightest moment the bulk of Mac users (or computer users in general) want to fuck around with the internals of a computer than you're completely off your rocker. Stop being stupid! You know god damn well what I meant and just wanted to make an argument out of nothing. 

Again, no proof to backup your claim.  You were called on it and now the insults fly.  This seems to happen whenever anyone walks in this forum and wants an upgradable Mac.  "No one wants that".  "You're crazy."  Funny how it keeps happening for such a minuscule number.

Forums are a very minuscule number yes and typically also not your average consumer either. I'm pretty sure Apple knows what it's doing. Judging by sales, I wouldn't exactly call the MacBook lineup a flop by any means. If it were as big of a deal as you're making it out to be then sales would be falling but they aren't and don't give this BS of what if it was expandable, sales would be even better crap because you don't know. They could just stay the same, possibly even go down? 

I wasn't really called on anything. You're trying to make an argument out of nothing and you're the only one doing it. 

There you go again, making up things.  Assuming I'm going to come up with "sales would be better..."

I will say it is much more likely that those that want upgrades have just resigned ourselves to being gouged by Apple at purchase time and have realized that someday it'll be a whole unit replacement instead of an upgrade/replacement of one components because, well, that is Apple's endgame: sell units, not components.

There are plenty on these forums over the years complaining about lack of expandability, so please stop the "you're the only one doing it" crap.  Saying something as a statement of fact doesn't make it so.

Then GO BUY SOMETHING ELSE GENIUS.  Folks like you have been whining for over a decade and every model is less upgradable.  GET THE HINT GENIUS.  Stop whining about being “gouged” and it has been this way with the Mac from day fucking one.  The original Mac had funny screws and was an AIO because that’s the was Steve wanted it.  User expandable Macs have been an aberration not the norm.

Jesus.  

"Funny Screws"?  You mean a torq 15 screws?  That's hardly unique, I used to upgrade the Mac SEs all the time at the Apple dealer I worked at.  Hard drives and RAM.  Even the MacPlus was upgradable.  The HD and RAM vendors even included the bit/tool for those "funny screws."  Mac Classic, Mac Color Classic, all the same.  Did you know the SE and SE/30s had a PDS slot for card expansion like network cards?

Every Mac II of various models had some form of upgrade via NuBUS slots.  Same for the Quadra, some Performas and all had RAM/HD upgrades.  Oh, and all the PowerMacs - 7200, 7300, 7500, 7600, 8600, 9600 - had PCI slots."

Same for the first iMacs.  G3 and G4s, many with PCI slots.  The laptops of the time, PowerBooks, all were upgradable with RAM and HD.

The original iBook had RAM and HD upgrades AND the WIFI was optional (AirPort Card).  Same with the PowerBook G3 & G4s early on.

I know, because I was an Apple Authorized tech for all of those and, at one time or another, upgraded every single one of them for customers.

Gee, I seem to be listing an awful lot of "aberrations." I apologize if I missed a few.

Glad I could give you a history lesson and education.
You're welcome, signed -"GENIUS".

macxpress said:

majorsl said:

macxpress said:

majorsl said:

Soli said:

majorsl said:

macxpress said:

SpamSandwich said:

canukstorm said:

SpamSandwich said:

The “Pro” designation no longer applies to the MacBook line. They’re all student computers now.

If you'r talking about the entry-level 13" MBP with the 1.4Ghz processors, I would tend to agree.  Not so with the rest of the MBP lineup.

The design and engineering reversal (for the better) that Apple made with the Mac Pro needs to happen throughout the MacBook Pro line. More connections, more expandability.

The current MacBook Pro has more connections than any other Mac laptop ever released. And, nobody really cares about upgrading their Mac except the .00001%. 

Care to back up that number with a source or did you pull it out of thin air in a vein attempt to make a point?

The MBP has 4 FOUR Thunderbolt 3 ports. Since TB3 means that's it's not limited to a VGA, DVI, or other video-limited port it means there are 4 ports that can do video. It also means there are 4 ports that can do power, 4 ports that can do data, and on and on. If you really don't know what Thunderbolt 3 and USB-C are capable of you really should read up on it. We're living in the future it's quite glorious compared to lamenting about the days of data types never having to share. I certainly don't miss the days of ADC and parallel. These notebooks are the most versatile Mac notebooks Apple has ever created, not to mention having the fastest I/O, both internally and externally.

No, I meant the silly claim "nobody really cares about upgrading their Mac except the .00001%."  Saying it as a statement of fact doesn't make it so and I learned a long time ago that people who pump out random percentage numbers are only trying to backup a claim they are unsure of or just trying to sound smart.

But, yes to you.  I'm well aware of the ports & I/O on the MBP - I'm typing on a high-spec'd 15" right now.

Jesus Christ....of course it's an exaggeration but if you think for even the slightest moment the bulk of Mac users (or computer users in general) want to fuck around with the internals of a computer than you're completely off your rocker. Stop being stupid! You know god damn well what I meant and just wanted to make an argument out of nothing. 

Again, no proof to backup your claim.  You were called on it and now the insults fly.  This seems to happen whenever anyone walks in this forum and wants an upgradable Mac.  "No one wants that".  "You're crazy."  Funny how it keeps happening for such a minuscule number.

Forums are a very minuscule number yes and typically also not your average consumer either. I'm pretty sure Apple knows what it's doing. Judging by sales, I wouldn't exactly call the MacBook lineup a flop by any means. If it were as big of a deal as you're making it out to be then sales would be falling but they aren't and don't give this BS of what if it was expandable, sales would be even better crap because you don't know. They could just stay the same, possibly even go down? 

I wasn't really called on anything. You're trying to make an argument out of nothing and you're the only one doing it. 

There you go again, making up things.  Assuming I'm going to come up with "sales would be better..."

I will say it is much more likely that those that want upgrades have just resigned ourselves to being gouged by Apple at purchase time and have realized that someday it'll be a whole unit replacement instead of an upgrade/replacement of one components because, well, that is Apple's endgame: sell units, not components.

There are plenty on these forums over the years complaining about lack of expandability, so please stop the "you're the only one doing it" crap.  Saying something as a statement of fact doesn't make it so.

macxpress said:

majorsl said:

Soli said:

majorsl said:

macxpress said:

SpamSandwich said:

canukstorm said:

SpamSandwich said:

The “Pro” designation no longer applies to the MacBook line. They’re all student computers now.

If you'r talking about the entry-level 13" MBP with the 1.4Ghz processors, I would tend to agree.  Not so with the rest of the MBP lineup.

The design and engineering reversal (for the better) that Apple made with the Mac Pro needs to happen throughout the MacBook Pro line. More connections, more expandability.

The current MacBook Pro has more connections than any other Mac laptop ever released. And, nobody really cares about upgrading their Mac except the .00001%. 

Care to back up that number with a source or did you pull it out of thin air in a vein attempt to make a point?

The MBP has 4 FOUR Thunderbolt 3 ports. Since TB3 means that's it's not limited to a VGA, DVI, or other video-limited port it means there are 4 ports that can do video. It also means there are 4 ports that can do power, 4 ports that can do data, and on and on. If you really don't know what Thunderbolt 3 and USB-C are capable of you really should read up on it. We're living in the future it's quite glorious compared to lamenting about the days of data types never having to share. I certainly don't miss the days of ADC and parallel. These notebooks are the most versatile Mac notebooks Apple has ever created, not to mention having the fastest I/O, both internally and externally.

No, I meant the silly claim "nobody really cares about upgrading their Mac except the .00001%."  Saying it as a statement of fact doesn't make it so and I learned a long time ago that people who pump out random percentage numbers are only trying to backup a claim they are unsure of or just trying to sound smart.

But, yes to you.  I'm well aware of the ports & I/O on the MBP - I'm typing on a high-spec'd 15" right now.

Jesus Christ....of course it's an exaggeration but if you think for even the slightest moment the bulk of Mac users (or computer users in general) want to fuck around with the internals of a computer than you're completely off your rocker. Stop being stupid! You know god damn well what I meant and just wanted to make an argument out of nothing. 

Again, no proof to backup your claim.  You were called on it and now the insults fly.  This seems to happen whenever anyone walks in this forum and wants an upgradable Mac.  "No one wants that".  "You're crazy."  Funny how it keeps happening for such a minuscule number.