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First look: Mac Pro and Apple Pro Display XDR [u]
Mike Wuerthele said:JustSomeGuy1 said:Who wrote this?!? It's rife with errors.- Price of the Mac is wrong (correct start price is $5999).- Max RAM is 1.5TB, not 2TB. (Tells us something interesting about the Xeons being used, they're the first M series)- Description of the MPX is inaccurate and/or speculative. Each one takes up two double-wide slots, two will take four slots. We don't yet know if the infinity fabric will link the cards (you'd think so but I see no evidence).- Pro display nano-etching is an option, for $1k more.- "84GB per second of data migration"?? Who thinks up these things?- "The display does come with a basic stand." Really? You could be right about this, but I've seen no evidence of this. Source?
The above graphic is from Apple's specs on the Mac Pro at Apple.com
MPX description, 84GB per second figure, stand, infinity fabric: from Apple at WWDC.I'm not sure where you got the $4999 figure from for the Mac Pro. The text says $5999, but I suppose an earlier version could have said $4999. The Nano-etched version is spelled out as $1000 more in the text already, and I know that's from the first draft.Thank you.FYI, 1.5TB was listed by multiple sources. I *thought* by Apple as well, though I could be wrong. Your graphic is probably the last word on this, but let's see if it stands. If it does that means we're getting the latest generation chip, which is interesting - 1.5 would have meant the first gen chips.About MPX/84GB, I was objecting to use of the phrase "data migration". It's just silly.The $4999 figure was indeed in the version of your article that I read. Double-checked it before posting.Still curious about the stand, found no mention of it yet. -
First look: Mac Pro and Apple Pro Display XDR [u]
Who wrote this?!? It's rife with errors.- Price of the Mac is wrong (correct start price is $5999).- Max RAM is 1.5TB, not 2TB. (Tells us something interesting about the Xeons being used, they're the first M series)- Description of the MPX is inaccurate and/or speculative. Each one takes up two double-wide slots, two will take four slots. We don't yet know if the infinity fabric will link the cards (you'd think so but I see no evidence).- Pro display nano-etching is an option, for $1k more.- "84GB per second of data migration"?? Who thinks up these things?- "The display does come with a basic stand." Really? You could be right about this, but I've seen no evidence of this. Source?
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Apple debuts new $5999 Mac Pro with up to 28-core Xeon processors
lordjohnwhorfin said:rezwits said:Get this thru your head(s): "You're NOT getting one!!", the soonest is eBay 2025!! For $3500 haha, /s
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Apple debuts new $5999 Mac Pro with up to 28-core Xeon processors
The people whining about how the price is too high are ridiculous. Apple's breaking new ground here, and unlike 2013, I think they're breaking the right ground. Time will tell.But it is also true that they're leaving a significant market untapped. I don't need the $6k Mac, and really I don't *need* a $2-3k modular Mac either. But I'd much rather buy one than an iMac 5k, because I'd like to be able to upgrade over time, and not necessarily ditch my screen the same time I ditch my chassis. I'm still happily using 27" monitors from 11 years ago, though the new 5ks have their place too.So I'd like to see much more modest slotted machine in the $2-3k entry price range. And I think it's true that there would be a significant market for that model. All those low-rent wedding photographers, part-time devs, etc. Essentially, many of the complainers - they're wrong to complain about this Mac Pro, but they really are a market and their needs really aren't being met.So why isn't Apple serving them? Maybe they want to protect the market share for the new Pro. Or maybe they think the iMac and Mini really do cover the market sufficiently.If it's a market share issue, there is a solution: Apple's building custom hardware like the 8k ProRes card, and they could choose to only support it on the high-end Pro. So perhaps next year we'll see the cheaper slotted Pro. In the meantime, things are *so* much better than they were just a year ago:- Reasonable Mac Mini- *Two* major upgrades to the MBP 15- Better iMacThe iMac Pro could use an update though! Probably soon. I'd guess, by fall. -
MacBook Pro catches on fire, demonstrating potential danger of batteries
macplusplus said:JustSomeGuy1 said:macplusplus said:He was using it on his lap. Those computers are called “lap-top” metaphorically, not literally. Laptop doesn’t mean that it is to be used on someone’s lap or belly. That model has tiny air intakes on left and right bottom borders. If those are obstructed and the heat outlet below the hinge is also obstructed (very common case when using on the lap), I wish I am wrong but the unusually excessive heat may harm vulnerable parts such as battery. I am rather inclined to find a user error in that incident instead of an error in Apple’s quality control.As others have mentioned, this is ridiculous.All modern Macs and PCs have thermal monitoring. They will throttle back the CPU, and in extremis will shut down completely, rather than heat to such a degree.It's always better to ensure adequate cooling, especially on the 15" MBPs when you're looking for top performance, but you are not risking a fire by blocking the vents. (You are risking your work, if it shuts down with work unsaved.) It's possible that you might shorten the lifespan of your Mac a bit, if you do that frequently, by hastening the demise of one of the internal components. But it's unlikely to make a significant difference. The internal components are made to tolerate high temps.
“The internal components are made to tolerate high temps” but under normal usage conditions, i.e. good ventilation, clean interior, dustless fans etc... Throttling simply keeps your CPU cores at their rated temperature but it won’t cool down your computer if the heat accumulates unevenly and continuously on the other parts as a result of bad handling. If your CPU cores’ rated temperature is 100 deg C, throttling won’t cool those down to 70 deg C, it will simply prevent those from reaching, say 110 deg. Thermal shutdown is expected in a fully working computer but if the computer is previously hit by continuous thermal damage due to misuse then it may not even shut down before some component ignites (most vulnerable being the battery).Your supposition isn't impossible but it's wildly unlikely. So much so that it doesn't really bear consideration.The chances of this happening are extremely minute. Probably in the same ballpark as being struck by lightning. I wouldn't walk around holding an umbrella in an open field while it's raining, and I don't recommend using your Mac on (say) a bed with a fluffy comforter. But really, the Mac's a lot less dangerous than the umbrella.