ElCapitan

dantheman827 said:

What I find funny about this is the fact that Apple doesn't charge a "premium" for iCloud, their price is the same as Google and cheaper than Dropbox or OneDrive.

This is just someone going after Apple because they know they have money, I doubt anything will come out of this.

This has nothing to do with pricing or encryption. 

What is has to do with is that a lot of the original (read Mac) customer base chose Apple because they specifically did not want anything to do with Microsoft and Google, and Apple gave them a viable alternative.

This same base often had to fight a tough struggle with corporate IT in their work environment to be able to use their alternative at the risk of getting fired (people actually did get fired). It was only after the iPhone was launched and top executives started bringing their iPhones to work there was a change as IT was ordered to support them.

Although no longer as visible most places this fight with corporate Microsoft-dominated IT still goes on. It also goes on in mobile operator companies who favor Android based devices. 

So there is resentment when people find out that Cook's Apple sell them out the back door to "the enemy". 

urahara said:

ElCapitan said:

Perhaps the biggest issue here is that Timmy is standing there in conferences and in front of politicians such as the EU parliament bragging over how serious Apple takes privacy, while at the same time knowing his company store their customers data with the same companies he gives flack for NOT taking privacy serious. It is, at best, hypocrisy, at worst, complete contempt of his customers. 

I recommend you to read about encryption. Maybe education can subside some of your fears. 

There is nothing about encryption at all in that post.
It is about integrity, honesty, transparency and putting your money where your mouth is. 

I can guarantee you, something like that would never have happened when I worked in the company; it had pride, integrity and preserving the brand reputation at the forefront of it's priorities. This issue is just another installment in a series that over time will ruin the customer trust in the company. 

Rayz2016 said:

ElCapitan said:

Perhaps the biggest issue here is that Timmy is standing there in conferences and in front of politicians such as the EU parliament bragging over how serious Apple takes privacy, while at the same time knowing his company store their customers data with the same companies he gives flack for NOT taking privacy serious. It is, at best, hypocrisy, at worst, complete contempt of his customers. 

Learn to read. 

Ditto!

There is nothing to read except Timmy's public statements, bragging and virtue signaling on Apple privacy, while at the same time using the services he scorns for lacking privacy to store Apple customer data and produce the iCloud service. 

Perhaps the biggest issue here is that Timmy is standing there in conferences and in front of politicians such as the EU parliament bragging over how serious Apple takes privacy, while at the same time knowing his company store their customers data with the same companies he gives flack for NOT taking privacy serious. It is, at best, hypocrisy, at worst, complete contempt of his customers. 

hammeroftruth said:

ElCapitan said:

The lawsuit is 100% appropriate.

Apple has given the public the impression they store data in their own datacenters, and as Apple provides these services around the planet and customers in different countries should be informed where their data actually is stored so they can make informed decisions if they want to use the service or not.  It probably also has lead customers to believe they got an increased level of privacy (as spouted by Apple marketing), when in reality they got closer to Amazon Web Services, Google and Microsoft base level. If I knew my iCloud data was stored on Google servers, I would have ended the iCloud subscription immediately. 

But of course for ex-Compaq Tim Cook, he don't see the difference.

I think you are confusing your interpretation of what Apple said. They never said they owned the servers that house iCloud data, plus they don’t go into detail with the public on what data  is stored on those specific servers. Plus the fact that they use encryption which so far no one has been able to defeat makes it hard to present a case in which the plaintiffs or you were harmed.

I am not confusing anything. Apple has made multiple announcements of how they are building large data centers for iCloud and other services, and have even given tours of them for journalists. 

It has been generally assumed that Apple mainly have been hosting iCloud on Microsoft Azure architecture, but the servers running it were fully deployed to Apple owned facilities and locations. 

Data hosted in other cloud services will necessarily also end up in their backup systems where they never should have been. They can possibly also be decrypted there because Apple can decrypt iCloud hosted data and have done so in multiple cases for law enforcement. When the data end up in a third party backup system it can also be restored to a different location and potentially be compromised. 

This is also about Apple's integrity and trustworthiness. They pretend to have a holier-than-thou stance on privacy, yet completely fail to inform the customers that their data might migrate outside Apple facilities. NOT good!