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  • Will the COVID-19 disaster sink Apple's premium hardware?

    crowley said:
    ElCapitan said:
    crowley said:
    ElCapitan said:
    crowley said:
    ElCapitan said:

    People are going to get much more aware of purchasing products that creates jobs in their countries and not someone elsewhere. Equally they are going become much more focused on that their hard earned money don't stuff the coffers of international companies that hardly give anything back to their markets (taxes, job creation, local economic growth). 
    Doubt it.  People are going to chase a bargain just like they have always done.  Government spending might reorientate to prioritise the things you list, but even that will likely only be a flash in the pan.
    Brexit was pretty much a reaction on the above, as was the election of Trump. This virus is going to open eyes all over – actually it already has. 
    Brexit may have been, but that just proves are more ideological with their vote, their wallets are entirely different. “British made” is a thing that has little traction in markets, especially consumer electronics where I can’t recall ever seeing it.
    Raspberry PI 4.
    ARM based SBC with performance comparable to the 2014 mac mini.  Running Debian ++
    https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/

    All in all they have shipped about 35 million RPIs so far. 

    Just one example

    Let me add to that: We have found that we can throw at it most tasks the (now discontinued) macOS Server 2012 mac mini config handled for small businesses and workgroups at a fraction of the cost. – Or just install two or three distributing tasks amongst them.

    What?  Are you buying the Raspberry Pi because it is British made?  What foreign alternatived did you reject because they were foreign (a discontinued product is hardly an option).  You can't just namecheck a successful British product and expect it to be accepted as evidence that consumers are switching to locally manufactured products.
    Not buying the PI because it is British, but because it fills a space. Duh!  +They have a 7 year reputation, and is not some knock off Chinese fake company with shoddy support and build quality that is gone in two months.

    You said you had never heard of any British consumer product. I gave you an example. 
    elijahg
  • Will the COVID-19 disaster sink Apple's premium hardware?

    crowley said:
    ElCapitan said:
    crowley said:
    ElCapitan said:

    People are going to get much more aware of purchasing products that creates jobs in their countries and not someone elsewhere. Equally they are going become much more focused on that their hard earned money don't stuff the coffers of international companies that hardly give anything back to their markets (taxes, job creation, local economic growth). 
    Doubt it.  People are going to chase a bargain just like they have always done.  Government spending might reorientate to prioritise the things you list, but even that will likely only be a flash in the pan.
    Brexit was pretty much a reaction on the above, as was the election of Trump. This virus is going to open eyes all over – actually it already has. 
    Brexit may have been, but that just proves are more ideological with their vote, their wallets are entirely different. “British made” is a thing that has little traction in markets, especially consumer electronics where I can’t recall ever seeing it.
    Raspberry PI 4.
    ARM based SBC with performance comparable to the 2014 mac mini.  Running Debian ++
    https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/

    All in all they have shipped about 35 million RPIs so far. 

    Just one example

    Let me add to that: We have found that we can throw at it most tasks the (now discontinued) macOS Server 2012 mac mini config handled for small businesses and workgroups at a fraction of the cost. – Or just install two or three distributing tasks amongst them.


    elijahg
  • Will the COVID-19 disaster sink Apple's premium hardware?


    ElCapitan said:
    First of all there is a rude awakening across the planet of the insanity of shipping production of goods and services offshore, and putting all eggs in the Chinese basket.  The effect of the COVID-19 crisis is that suddenly all countries starts to act like countries again, and global sourcing has to a large extent collapsed. 

    With the upcoming financial depression we just have seen the start of, people are going to first cut on subscriptions; cloud services, music, media streaming, software subscriptions, then anything premium.

    People are going to get much more aware of purchasing products that creates jobs in their countries and not someone elsewhere. Equally they are going become much more focused on that their hard earned money don't stuff the coffers of international companies that hardly give anything back to their markets (taxes, job creation, local economic growth). 
    Apple also pays the most taxes in the US, and its sales are hit by state sales tax etc. Substantiate what you're claiming because it sounds awfully weak. 
    Apple thrives on harvesting a large international market, yet they bring very little job creations and activity to the majority of the markets they harvest. They also leave very little tax revenue in the markets they harvest, so the net outcome for those markets are negative overall.

    This is not particular to Apple, but is the case for just about every US company operating in non US markets.  Thankfully the EU is fully aware of the situation, and legislation is in the process of being created to make sure such companies pay their fair share of taxes in the countries/markets they harvest. 
    elijahg
  • Will the COVID-19 disaster sink Apple's premium hardware?

    First of all there is a rude awakening across the planet of the insanity of shipping production of goods and services offshore, and putting all eggs in the Chinese basket.  The effect of the COVID-19 crisis is that suddenly all countries starts to act like countries again, and global sourcing has to a large extent collapsed. 

    With the upcoming financial depression we just have seen the start of, people are going to first cut on subscriptions; cloud services, music, media streaming, software subscriptions, then anything premium.

    People are going to get much more aware of purchasing products that creates jobs in their countries and not someone elsewhere. Equally they are going become much more focused on that their hard earned money don't stuff the coffers of international companies that hardly give anything back to their markets (taxes, job creation, local economic growth). 
    tmayelijahg
  • Will the COVID-19 disaster sink Apple's premium hardware?

    Not sink, but there is potential for a big dent in it. – COVID-19 is only one of the drivers, though.
    elijahg