ElCapitan

iqatedo said:

ElCapitan said:

iqatedo said:

jdw said:

I've loved Apple since my 128K in 1984 and have never to this day owned even a single Windows machine.  With that said...

Much of what you wrote applies also to me. My first Mac was a 512 k. (On its single double density, dual-sided 'floppy' disk, were stored the operating system, applications and documents.) I believe though that Apple needs to re-invent personal computing and technologies exist (some on the horizon) to achieve this where others can't.

They don't need to reinvent anything.

They need to revert to building flexible, expandable, serviceable machines that don't run hot. Also, the constant focus on making macOS behave more and more like iOS and locking it down, is bound to throw off a lot of people who use their systems for work and projects iOS was never built for. 

Finally Apple needs to come to realization that more and more people don't want to store everything about their life in the cloud, and that businesses by law in most countries cannot store very large portions of their business and personnel data in the cloud. Therefore the systems Apple creates must also appeal to these users, which they sadly decreasingly do. 

I agree with aspects of what you have written, especially about iOS. However, regarding core Mac OS capabilities, your post reads a little like saying "they need to build a better (aka faster) horse".

Performance wise macOS is not bad at all compared to the alternatives. 

The issue over time for many users has become that as macOS and applications increasingly need more and more resources year by year, they have been sold locked down systems where there are virtually no upgrade path like there used to be i.e. add more memory or disk. PC users also have the ability to upgrade both GPU and CPU in many machine configurations.  
So while macOS and apps evolves and grows, their hardware system can no longer grow with them. Which IMO clearly negates the higher price for an Apple system, as many of the configs become throw away systems with short useful lifecycles (the 2014 mini with 4GB memory and a super slow HD is the horror example). 

iqatedo said:

jdw said:

I've loved Apple since my 128K in 1984 and have never to this day owned even a single Windows machine.  With that said...

Much of what you wrote applies also to me. My first Mac was a 512 k. (On its single double density, dual-sided 'floppy' disk, were stored the operating system, applications and documents.) I believe though that Apple needs to re-invent personal computing and technologies exist (some on the horizon) to achieve this where others can't.

They don't need to reinvent anything.

They need to revert to building flexible, expandable, serviceable machines that don't run hot. Also, the constant focus on making macOS behave more and more like iOS and locking it down, is bound to throw off a lot of people who use their systems for work and projects iOS was never built for. 

Finally Apple needs to come to realization that more and more people don't want to store everything about their life in the cloud, and that businesses by law in most countries cannot store very large portions of their business and personnel data in the cloud. Therefore the systems Apple creates must also appeal to these users, which they sadly decreasingly do. 

As painful as it is, we are replacing all Mac minis that were used as servers with HP kit running Linux. 

welshdog said:

Rayz2016 said:

The problem is that most IT consultancies are crap. They don’t care about the work, just about dinging you for the next project. Apple should think about building a pool of contractor talent from smaller outfits, who in my experience are a lot more professional. 

I've never seen anything quite like it.

Apple IS&T tools have always spanned the entire range from stellar to lackluster. For a long time many of them were written in Webobjects (java) originally developed by NeXT Software,  so the solution you used may very well have been written in it. Even iTunes were built on WebObjects for a long time.

I suspect as Apple is drifting further and further away from server type tools in their offerings (both HW and SW), you're gonna get the usual crappy run of the mill solutions those consultancy companies are so well known for also deployed for IS&T. 

Soli said:

ElCapitan said:

Some people here have the same type of reaction the Chinese had with the COVID-19 outbreak; ban, block, suppress and eradicate any criticism or discussion of missing functionality, performance or interoperability experienced for the holy Apple products. 

Fact is, Apple have largely forgotten there is something called Enterprise or even small business out there, and excluded them from their testing and use cases. Unless it fits precisely in their shrinking and increasingly locked down ecosystem, shut it or cut it out. 

1) You really think Apple's ecosystem is shrinking? A year ago it was reported that Apple's installed based for iPhone had tipped 1.4 billion.

Yes the ecosystem is shrinking in reach.. it used to be that the Mac was more or less the most versatile, in many ways most open and desirable client, desktop, portable, small server there was.  Now it is an increasingly overpriced locked down, glued down, soldered down, thermal throttling display item for the special interest and woke.