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tht said:

mikethemartian said:

tht said:

macbootx said:

Looking at the line of sensor related products they sell, Masimo certainly doesn’t appear to be a patent troll. Hopefully Apple will negotiate a fair deal. 

They are a patent troll. It's not mutually exclusive to have products while also being a patent troll. It's the way the game is often played as this is the way the USA gov't wants it, so companies play the game. Some are aggressive, some are not. It ebbs and flows.

The ITC "determined" that Apple violated 2 claims of 1 patent granted 2021, which was the year after Apple introduced the Apple Watch 6. Those claims should be invalidated and I definitely can see why Apple isn't going to settle, for now. But play the game they must.

You must be OK when people squat on other people’s land.

Obviously not ok with that. Just want people to do the right thing so that everyone benefits.

It's not hard to say that these aren't actually patents as we envision patents to be, where an actual design or product is protected. The patents are written in vague language for the express purpose of suing other entities that have anything resembling a blood oxygen device. There isn't any actual design or product in these patents.

The language in the claims are like a "a worn device with at least 2 LEDs". To me, that should be an automatic invalidation for being too vague as they are trying to patent an idea and not an actual product.  There's not a product there. No actual implementation of a blood oxygen measurement device. If it was, they would say precisely how many lights, what wavelengths, what power levels, what materials, and what calibrations they need to make it work.

These patents hold no engineering value, and if a company wanted to make a blood oxygen sensing device, they would have to develop the product from scratch. How could something be stolen, if so?

auxio said:

You know, back when I was in college learning how technology worked by reverse engineering it, I understood that it was simply for learning purposes and that I'd eventually have to work on creating original products to make money in the industry. Never once did I believe that reverse engineering was a valid way to make money, much less even entertain the idea that I was somehow entitled to do so. Products from other countries like China which were based on reverse engineering/cloning were often banned from being imported/sold in the US. When did the attitude towards this change?

tht said:

I'm still a little befuddled with the logic of Google having an illegal monopoly on Android app distribution and payments though. With Apple, it is much easier. They design and "make" the hardware (down to chip design), design-ship-support the OS, and design-ship-support the platform and tools. It's their product through and through and you can't have a "monopoly" on your own product. Google Android has something like 50% of the market in the USA. For me, that's a little low in marketshare to have monopoly power. Those deals though. Definitely can see that those deals hoisted Google on its own petard.

bloggerblog said:

Then people get triggered when large companies adopt automations or move talent abroad like tech support. Apple refused the 7% pay rise because every other company paid 4%.