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neilm said:

11pm local time, so well after dark on a restricted track. The question of whether their judgment was impaired is unavoidable. Good work by the iPhone crash detection feature, but a better outcome was not to be had.

VictorMortimer said:

Xed said:

bobolicious said:

"the car maker believes that Autopilot is safe to use, and that it only becomes a danger when drivers are not paying attention to the road"

Define 'auto'...?

Would you use that simplistic answer also work for automobile? I'm guessing you wouldn't.

On the one hand, fuck Tesla and Musk's lies about Autopilot's capabilities, but on the other, autopilot doesn't mean the driver doesn't have to be aware, present, etc. Airplanes have had autopilot for over a century and yet we're still not flying airplanes without pilots in them. Well, except for the drone category and those are controlled by a remote operator. I'm assuming that if a commercial airliner crashed and the NTSB discovered that it was because the pilot was playing games you wouldn't be defending the pilot with a comment like "define 'auto'?"

I love all the automation I have in my car which allow for more relaxed and safer driving, but I understand that I'm still required to have situational awareness with those automated systems in place inside my automobile. Anything less is just asking to be a Darwin Award nominee.

Turdla literally sells cars with something that they call "full self driving".

Does that imply to you that a human driver still needs to be aware or present?

The word "autopilot" isn't confusing to actual pilots, but it can be to the general public.  But if Cessna started selling "full self flying", I guarantee you that even a licensed pilot would expect that would be a fully automated aircraft.  I also guarantee the FAA wouldn't allow anything named that to be sold if it wasn't capable of full automation.