ericpeets

dabigkahuna said:

patientlywaiting said:

Those of us who have been banned or shadowbanned from the WayTools Forum ask our questions here because we are unable to ask our questions there.

The question was about getting an update. They have already said it will be on their forum. Thus it doesn't matter if some can personally ask the question there or not.

But it's fine if people want to ask here too. I was just pointing out where they have already said they will post it.

Kahuna, can you ask them to post here too if it's not much trouble?

Or will they not? Is it a foregone conclusion, just like them NOT shipping in 2019?

dabigkahuna said:

patientlywaiting said:

I would love to see you do this in a courtroom:

Nope. Once again you don't address the example I gave - an example that pretty much everyone has seen or experienced themselves in real life and they don't consider such things to be lies.

To go back to the proper context, if a judge asks me if I can appear in court on Friday and I say, "yes", then, on the way to the courtroom on Friday I'm in an accident and am in the hospital instead of in court, I will not be charged with perjury.

True, perjury charge is only if you lie to court, not if you couldn't make it court. However, deposition may still follow you into the hospital depending on the severity of injury, at which point if you lie you will go to jail immediately or right after you're discharged, again depending on severity.

But perjury (which could still follow) would be the least of your worries if you can't convince the court as to why you couldn't show up, which would be another issue you'd have to answer to. This too would also depend on the severity of the accident, plus what kind of accident it was....

Addressing your examples: Were you raped or beat up, etc. Specifically, Kahuna, did someone bust in your back door or just bust your face in?

Hi all,

I wake up after two days of downtime and I see there's been hundreds of posts since my last.
I read through a few before I thought TL;DR. It's a lot, at least before coffee.
Can some kind soul fill me in as to what happened?

The last I post I read was Waytools_Support saying something about enjoying the weather and they're gonna lay off their BS grinder for a day (page #27).
And I thought: "Great! I too should get back to work". But it seems they quickly jumped back in the fray (sneaky, sneaky).

So, two questions:

1. Is Kahuna still redefining the word "Yes"? Is he using any real, factual dictionary for his (re)definitions or is he pulling stuff out of his behind, as he is wont?
   
   If so, can someone kindly ask him for a link for the dictionary he's using? I fancy myself a polyglot and I have Amazon Prime so I can get it within 2 days. Just to make sure we're on the same page from now on and he's not "hogging" this definitive English language reference only for himself, you see. I'd ask him myself, but he'd take it as an "attack" or "verbal violence".
   
   Last I read, he was clinging onto some notion that either getting "raped" (horrors) or getting beat up and ending up in the hospital would nullify anything you said "Yes" to. I hope his dictionary will finally shed some light on this, since English is not my first language -- more like 2.5, and so I thought he was trying to curry sympathy by playing the "victimized" card before I realized that that's uniquely Waytools' game.
   
   
2. Speaking of which, is Waytools_Support still back-pedaling their "Yes" and "It is" statements? Seems they're overclocking their PR damage-control doing some serious overtime, even neglecting their own forums. Hope the intern(s) are getting paid. For context, this was regarding a dialogue  that tooks place on Feb 20, 2019 on the Waytools forum:

AdamRoxby: "Will 2019 finally be when we see the Textblade after all these years?" 
waytools: Yes.

Waiting: how has the WayTools post saying it will be released in 2019 not breaking the forums? Sure, we get the updated release timeframe on the order page, but I don't think anyone believes those. This post by WT seems very different to me.

waytools: It is.

After webscraping the forum and grepping the bejesus out of it, I can't find any supporting statement confirming that "Yes. It (textblade) is indeed going to ship in 2019." I had my Amex out to put in an order for me and my gal, or even create a gofundme and donate that money. But since they apparently object to that and find it as a joke, I guess they can gofundyourself. 

So is their "Yes" indeed a Yes? If not, did they say why they so assuredly said "Yes" when there are plenty of other affirmative words in the English language. Or are they planning on getting beat up at some point, and be absolved by their "customers" and could play the victim game some more?

Or are they just still blaming everything on fairies, goblins, alter-egos, anonymous pseudonyms? Maybe they forced them to say "Yes" because they threatened to beat them up? Who knows in the WWW (Whacky World of Waytools).

So please someone please fill me in? Doesn't have to be a wall of text, but a little more than a string of fortune cookie sound bites. Quick, executive style summary will do.

I'll try to get caught up by this weekend, after I clear off some (actual) milestones at work. I'm free on Sunday because a guy whose turn it was to host the "Game of Thrones" party cancelled suddenly. His reason is that this final 8th season is crap because it's not following George Martin's books. And I said: "Dude, they ran out of the original book material after season 4. It took you 4+ years to realize that? Really?"

Dunno if he's going to refund all the money we pitched in for dinner and snacks. He's a kinda shady-looking guy who's apparently a neighbor to a friend of a friend, so I doubt it. It wasn't much anyways, but it just ticks me off, mainly because my girlfriend loves those kinds of events, and she's like the nicest person in the world.

WayTools_Support said:

Ericpeets - post 531 - You’ve got to be joking. For the love of god, man - 

Right... It's a joke to you. Why am I not surprised?

After all the intense diatribes, gestapo allusions, etc., why in the heck would you buy anything from a company if it were guilty of such accusations?

Much less up the ante, by adding your girlfriend too.

I don't 'buy' anything from your company -- literally and figuratively.

Think of my offer as monetary donation to whoever it is you're going to throw under the bus when you fail to deliver in 2019. One of your interns, maybe? Just add that to their severance pay, as they may find themselves jobless around the holiday season.

You don't seem to understand, much less care, that there will be (and there were) casualties and collateral damages to your 4+ year long string of lies. People who wanted to write their doctoral thesis with the Textblade, people who wanted to use it before they retire, people who wanted to teach typing to their kids using the textblade, and on and on. I know you think nothing of them, but it saddens me terribly to read their posts.

Their hopes were dashed, frustrated, and even some humiliated by you and your actions (or inactions). In my book, they need to be compensated or at least given closure.

Besides, you like money. You like hoarding it (since you repeatedly claim you haven't used any of it). Hopefully more money will get you to at least provide decent updates for the disenfranchised in your forums. I knew that $99 wouldn't be enough for you to move your behind, but hoped that $198 will...? Or do you need more? A lot more...? Just to perform the basic duties of a company?

As for me, I don't expect any delivery of a textblade. I know you're not keen on humor, but when I said 'GR or forever, whichever comes first' I was being redundant. Humor's lost when you have to explain.

dabigkahuna said:

ericpeets said:

The question was: "Will 2019 finally be when we see the Textblade after all these years?" To which Waytools replied: "Yes"

We seem to have become so used to Waytools lying that words so simple and definitive as "Yes" has lost its meaning. There are many other words that can convey doubt, ambiguity, uncertainty, expectations, etc. -- but "Yes" is not one of them. I mean, which part of "Yes" do you not understand?

It actually isn't that simple and we know it from everyday life where you aren't even dealing with new tech, which may have unexpected problems.

For example, your spouse asks if you can pick them up at at work at 5:00. You say "yes".

But you don't. If you only consider it is a computer-like binary thing, you must have lied! Except you didn't, because:

You had every EXPECTATION that you would do so.

You took every reasonable step to fulfill your agreement.

But your car got a flat tire, or broke down for some other reason, or there was a major accident on the way and you had no alternate route you could take when you realized it. Or you were in the accident. Or on the way you saw a woman being raped and rushed to save her, getting beat up yourself and taken to the hospital.

No doubt your spouse would be quite angry when you didn't show up on time. And no doubt, unless they were a very unreasonable person, they would understand when they found out why - and NOT say you lied.

So, in normal life, "yes" is not always binary when looking at the big picture. It may be binary as giving a choice of yes or no, but not in effect because other variables are also in play, even in a situation where you can gave far more confidence in what will happen.

You would simply have fully expected to do what you said. Thus your "yes" answer would have reflected your expectation.

As for this time being different ("It is"), I can think of plenty of reasons why it is different, starting with the fact that as they do the rewrite, they are doing so with the knowledge of all the things they learned the first time. Doesn't mean this difference guarantees shipping this year. But it would increase their expectations.

Oh Kahuna, you could have saved us a lot of words by just saying something like "How about if Mark's dumb dog ate all the pallets on Dec. 31st?" and it would have been just as ridiculous.

This is exactly what I mean by redefining words to the point they become meaningless. Who'd a thunk that "Yes" came with so much disclaimers -- when it doesn't? If they'd meant all those disclaimers in their "Yes" to a point-blank question, couldn't they have clued us in by decorating the word with an asterisk or just spelling out 'caveat emptor' or some such Latin, of which they're so fond? Otherwise, they could have used another one of many words with room for failure, yet is mostly affirmative. Or they simply could have not responded at all. 

But tell you what... I'll bite. If there's no delivery by Jan 1, 2020, but Waytools can provide proof that they were hampered by an accident, hospitalization (after being beat up) or any act of God involving a Waytools employee, I will not call them a liar. Acceptable proof is either an un-doctored photo or video with accurate time stamp. In fact, I'll even put in an order for me and my girlfriend, and promise to wait it out until GR or forever, whichever comes first.

In short, I'm putting my money where my mouth is. How about you Waytools?