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Work on second-gen Apple Vision Pro & new smart glasses is progressing
I don't know if that's a fair comment. He's sharing the challenges he has with the technology as it is right now, much of which is valid for many if not many consumers. And he gets to share that opinion. He also explains why he's not interested in this product, not that he's not interested in the technology. There's a difference. Also, this is the kind of feedback a company like Apple WANTS because it's what will help them focus and drive their development moving forward.ssfe11 said:Anyone who is just not interest in AVP but explains why for 15 paragraphs long is fos and has a carefully hidden motive because when not interested in something you quickly move on and give it zero of your time.
If the challenges get addressed eventually, I'm sure the narrative would change.
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EU hits back at Apple withholding Apple Intelligence from the region
From what I'm reading, what Apple did was to say certain features won't be released in the EU because of a question on compliance to EU regulations, but are in discussions to resolve. Not sure where the blame is. Also, from what we're reading in the article, the compliance issues have to do with the opening of tech Apple invented, to other competitors, as some of the features in question have to do with the secure interoperability of Apple devices with other Apple devices.spheric said:canucklehead said:
Except these features are due to come out shortly and likely, these discussions won’t produce a resolution by that time. Apple is ensuring that the people in the EU have the right expectations when the next OSs are launched.avon b7 said:
What was unnecessary was the need to make a fuss out of things. Totally unnecessary.foregoneconclusion said:
That's what they're doing: putting the new AI features on hold while they communicate with the EU per the DMA requirements. Note that Apple was in communication with the EU about the anti-steering changes in the DMA and now the EU is saying there's something wrong with what Apple did.avon b7 said: It's all completely unnecessary on Apple's part. Why not simply ask the EU and wait for a reply?
If they had simply asked and waited for a reply we wouldn't even be talking about this now. No one would have brought the question up in the first place. Vestager wouldn't have said anything.
But no, Apple decided to FUD things up.
That's their call but it's pretty foolish, petty and probably won't help in the bigger scheme of things.
Apple’s going for friction so... so be it.
What Apple is doing here is publicly blaming delays in the European release of these features on the EU Commission in a blatant political stunt.
Everybody already knew that the features would be coming to the EU later. They always do. (We've been waiting for a functional version of Siri for almost thirteen years now, and News never made it to most of Europe at all.)
Vestager made a PERSONAL comment about Apple making that comment in hopes that it would turn the EU public against the EU Commission (it isn't), and called them out on it.
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EU hits back at Apple withholding Apple Intelligence from the region
Yet you completely ignore the actual point of my comment, which is that the EU wants Apple to make this new tech available, and when it’s make available, the EU wants to force Apple to essentially give away that tech to it’s competitors. Seems rather unreasonable, no? Why on Earth would any company agree to that? All Apple is doing by making this announcement is to point out how absurd this is.avon b7 said:
Announced just this very month and not expected in the US until the end of the year and on a very limited range of devices. That isn't 'shortly' even for the US and things will be rolled out over time.canucklehead said:
Except these features are due to come out shortly and likely, these discussions won’t produce a resolution by that time. Apple is ensuring that the people in the EU have the right expectations when the next OSs are launched.avon b7 said:
What was unnecessary was the need to make a fuss out of things. Totally unnecessary.foregoneconclusion said:
That's what they're doing: putting the new AI features on hold while they communicate with the EU per the DMA requirements. Note that Apple was in communication with the EU about the anti-steering changes in the DMA and now the EU is saying there's something wrong with what Apple did.avon b7 said: It's all completely unnecessary on Apple's part. Why not simply ask the EU and wait for a reply?
If they had simply asked and waited for a reply we wouldn't even be talking about this now. No one would have brought the question up in the first place. Vestager wouldn't have said anything.
But no, Apple decided to FUD things up.
That's their call but it's pretty foolish, petty and probably won't help in the bigger scheme of things.
Apple’s going for friction so... so be it.
It definitely isn't 'shortly' for the EU.
These discussions should produce a quick result if Apple is upfront on everything. After all, the DSA/DMA have been enacted and now it is about compliance.
Will Apple be upfront, though? I very much doubt it. Just look at the 'core technology fee'.
What is likely is that Apple will try the same 'malicious compliance' route it is already on so the EU will probably have to reserve judgement, wait for features to be deployed (that's Apple's decision) and then evaluate them.
Has Apple actually published why (I mean, exactly why) it thinks it may be non-compliant?
Of course it hasn't. That is the thing about FUD. If your goal is to truly inform and be transparent, then do it. Write a white paper on compliance difficulties.
“You created something I want. So please give it to me. And when you do, I require you to give it to everyone else too.” Sounds fair.
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EU hits back at Apple withholding Apple Intelligence from the region
Except these features are due to come out shortly and likely, these discussions won’t produce a resolution by that time. Apple is ensuring that the people in the EU have the right expectations when the next OSs are launched.avon b7 said:
What was unnecessary was the need to make a fuss out of things. Totally unnecessary.foregoneconclusion said:
That's what they're doing: putting the new AI features on hold while they communicate with the EU per the DMA requirements. Note that Apple was in communication with the EU about the anti-steering changes in the DMA and now the EU is saying there's something wrong with what Apple did.avon b7 said: It's all completely unnecessary on Apple's part. Why not simply ask the EU and wait for a reply?
If they had simply asked and waited for a reply we wouldn't even be talking about this now. No one would have brought the question up in the first place. Vestager wouldn't have said anything.
But no, Apple decided to FUD things up.
That's their call but it's pretty foolish, petty and probably won't help in the bigger scheme of things.
Apple’s going for friction so... so be it.
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EU hits back at Apple withholding Apple Intelligence from the region
I’m trying to understand the logic of this. Apple creates a feature for its products that no other company can fully replicate. This makes these products more desirable. Then a government wants to force Apple to make the service they invented available to its competitors to use and replicate and profit from? And when Apple says it will not release this service in the region trying to enforce this requirement, they threaten to fine said company for NOT wanting to be forced to give away their technology? Do I understand correctly? Talk about wanting to have your cake and eat it too. Why would any large company work to come up with new ideas, ever, if they’re going to be forced to give them away?
You can’t have it both ways.
