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  • Apple unveils plans to ditch Intel chips in Macs for 'Apple Silicon'

    Riker said:

    Quit with the Hater shit, willya? It gets really old. Take it to MacRumors; it’s all they’ve got there.
    There are opinions in the world that differ from yours.
    True; but it does get tiresome. They all allege the same ol’ stuff; but never back it up with even a scintilla of fact.

    And there is a difference between allegation and opinion.
    StrangeDayschiarundhvidwatto_cobra
  • Apple unveils plans to ditch Intel chips in Macs for 'Apple Silicon'

    crimguy said:
    I am also skeptical.  All of this talk about virtualization, Rosetta, etc.  Very reminiscent of when we went from PowerPC to Intel.  The difference is, going to Intel was a boon because suddenly we had Macs that could run linux, Windows, etc.  It was great, and I promptly tossed my Windows machine out a window.

    Now?  We're going in the opposite direction, hoping all of these virtualization technologies won't take a bit performance hit (I've got news. They always do!).  He's talking about getting linux running on a mac, which is great, but are we talking about custom ARM builds?

    And graphics performance?  Anyone here really think Apple is going to magically be able to compete with nVidia hardware, with on-the-fly ray tracing support? I find it hard to swallow.  We will need to get AMD or nVidia to create drivers for OSX I suppose if we have their gpu's at all.

    Just so I'm not sounding too negative, I am very excited for the common development across iOS and OSX.  This should bring a ton of software across both platforms.  
    The first Rosetta was not built by Apple, and was obviously a only a stopgap to keep Photoshop and ProTools on the Mac until the Publishers could be arm-twisted into porting them to Intel OS X.

    This is night and day different. If there is a performance hit, it appears negligible.

    nVidia doesn’t own a patent on hardware ray-tracing; at least not on the concept. Apple will catch up to that in a couple of years, IMHO.

    And you know what comes with a ton of software? A ton of marketshare, that’s what! And you know what comes with a ton of marketshare? A ton of new Developers, that’s what! And you know what comes with a ton of new Developers? A ton of new software, that’s what! And you know what comes with a ton of new software...
    asdasdfastasleeproundaboutnowRayz2016macky the mackyrundhvidwatto_cobra
  • Apple unveils plans to ditch Intel chips in Macs for 'Apple Silicon'

    melgross said:
    Unlike what the article says, Apple didn’t say what the machines they were using for their demos had in the way of RAM or storage. They did say how much would be in the developer machines. And I would also like to point out that the iPad Pro has 6GB RAM, not 16GB, so the developer machines are not outfitted the same. That’s not surprising, because the Mac needs more resources than iOS devices.
    Good point; but since they obviously had this transition in mind when they did the A12Z, I submit they designed an External memory bus into the SoC, allowing the internal RAM and Flash to be supplanted/replaced with external resources.

    Many Microcontrollers have supported such an expansion bus for decades; in fact, before EPROM and flash-based microcontrollers were the norm, it was the only way to do a “Development Version” of most microcontrollers.

    Afterall, when you’ve got a BGA package with a few hundred pads, what’s another 96 or so for an expansion bus?
    tmaywatto_cobra
  • Apple unveils plans to ditch Intel chips in Macs for 'Apple Silicon'

    karmadave said:
    Fortunately for Apple the Mac is a small portion of their overall revenue
    Judging from Wall Street’s reaction to this news, I’d say that is about to change (AAPL up by nearly $30 over the past week or so on the rumor and the actual news! When was the last time you saw AAPL go up after a WWDC Keynote???)
    narwhalfastasleeptmayJWSCDeelronrundhvidwatto_cobra
  • Apple unveils plans to ditch Intel chips in Macs for 'Apple Silicon'

    hattig said:
    lkrupp said:

    AppleZulu said:
    Remember all those peanuts in the peanut gallery who were cursing Tim Cook because Apple was "abandoning the Mac?" 
    They are abandoning the Mac. The new machines will be just be iPads with a few tweaks. 
    No, the Mac is about Mac OS, and this is running Mac OS. Here we have a quad-core A12Z running at least acceptably with native x86 software, nevermind what was running natively. A 12 core A14Z with higher TDP is going to be even better.

    Or should we be running on extremely fast 68000 derivatives still?
    Howabout a 64 Core 6502?!? That would blaze! 😂
    anonconformistwatto_cobra