Wesley_Hilliard

danox said:

Apple Silicon M5 coming out in the fall or Siri being 20% smarter which would you choose and which one do you think the public would care more about right now? AI which is currently half hype, half fad and is unprofitable currently for everyone other than Nvidia, or Apple Silicon and the five operating/ecosystems being better than they were last year without AI is probably more important long-term than Siri being like Robbie the robot in Forbidden Planet. 

Apples path is going to be longer because they are carrying the load of software and hardware in house that’s just the way it is and there is no shortcut.

The general public doesn't care about either.

mikethemartian said:

Wesley_Hilliard said:

MassiveAttack said:

Crazy that the stock is up on this news, because it officially confirms that Apple ideas way behind. 

Is it (as the article says) true, that ChatGPT or Anthropic will run on device, so that they don’t get API data from Apple? 

Otherwise, it is no good news for Apple for long term. 

First point: no, this confirms nothing about Apple being "way behind"

Second: ChatGPT already runs via Siri without getting data from Apple or the user. Private Cloud Compute is server side, but independently verified to not be storing user data.

Third: How is giving users access to more private and secure models using Apple technology a bad thing for Apple?

OpenAI is an artificial intelligence company. If they want to figure out the identity of a user without an email address or IP address I'm willing to bet they can.

Well, the biggest problem with this statement is that they've got a deal saying that they won't access or use any data submitted by users via Apple. Second, I really don't understand what your statement is trying to convey... that OpenAI has some kind of magical superpowers thanks to its AI? That's not really what AI is or does.

discountopinion said:

A better partner for Apple would be xAi with Grok. They currently appear to be iterating faster than the rest and also have a lower user base than the rest which may mean that they are more open for the massive distribution that Apple could offer.

Yeah, no. I don't see Apple working with X on anything here. It reluctantly brought back advertising to avoid additional pressure and lawsuits from the current administration. I understand there are fans of xAi that seem to ignore its psychopath leader, but I doubt Apple could trust it with anything.

MassiveAttack said:

Crazy that the stock is up on this news, because it officially confirms that Apple ideas way behind. 

Is it (as the article says) true, that ChatGPT or Anthropic will run on device, so that they don’t get API data from Apple? 

Otherwise, it is no good news for Apple for long term. 

First point: no, this confirms nothing about Apple being "way behind"

Second: ChatGPT already runs via Siri without getting data from Apple or the user. Private Cloud Compute is server side, but independently verified to not be storing user data.

Third: How is giving users access to more private and secure models using Apple technology a bad thing for Apple?

I think the biggest issue here is the blamket term "ad." I agree that the lock screen and first party apps should he free of advertisements, like web ads. Of course.

but i don't see the problem with notifying users of benefits to the ecosystem, especially when they can be turned off 

entropys said:

Amazing that someone tries to defend the indefensible. 

this is just obnoxious MBA weenies in marketing having too much control over a company. The tail wagging the dog.

But like... what makes this indefensible? Every other tech company does 10x worse at a minimum on a constant basis. There are Android phones that have permanent placement ads on the lock screen that show casino apps.

What are we even complaining about here?

mpantone said:

You know, if a third-party tech journalism site needs to explain why a first-party ad is legit, well, that's a COMPLETE fail for Apple.

I'm not sure what you mean tbh. And the only people I've seen super vocal about it are the tech nerds. Non nerds generally like being told when and where they can save money. When you get the coupon book in the mail you don't use them all because they're not all relevant to you personally, but that doesn't mean you write the USPS and tell them they are evil for inserting an ad for shampoo in your mailbox.