Wesley_Hilliard

Moderation note: Do not attack Senator Warren as a person on here. Yes, I'm aware of her nonsense, but it doesn't have anything to do with the topic at hand. Also, China is not a country with a third world economy and I wouldn't classify its workforce as "slave labor." This is just insulting and unnecessary for the topic at hand.

We can have a conversation about these things without resorting to extremes and insults. Like, it is perfectly fine to say you believe the tariffs are necessary and that getting manufacturing out of China is a good thing. You can even say that it'll be difficult for America to compete with the incredibly inexpensive labor available in China and India.

There's no need to put additional, non-factual, qualifiers on these things that do nothing except ramp up the rhetoric and arguments.

fastasleep said:

Wesley_Hilliard said:

fastasleep said:

AppleInsider said:

The letter also fails to mention that even as Apple is exempted for now, the grace period is temporary. President Trump says semiconductor tariffs were on the way. So, soon Apple may be hit with the full force of tariffs on China and its Apple Silicon chips. 

This makes no sense. Apple is vulnerable to tariffs on the finished products with are assembled in China, and shipped to the US. Not Apple silicon chips which are made in Taiwan, shipped to China, assembled into the devices which are then shipped from China to the US. Apple silicon chips are not shipped to the US, at least not en masse or as consumer products.

The whole point of tariffs, according to Trump sometimes, is to bring manufacturing back to the United States. So, if Apple has to import parts like semiconductors, then it's going to get hit with a tariff. If it builds overseas and imports, it's hit with a different tariff. So, there is effectively no way to avoid a tariff.

Doesn't seem like a good strategy.

Oh, sure — but nobody is moving manufacturing over to the US, at least not anytime soon — especially with the way Trump waffles and folds like he's got multiple personalities fighting over who has the most ill-formed trade policy.

But the article specifically says that because of semiconductor tariffs, "soon Apple may be hit" due to its Apple Silicon chips, when it's really Apple's finished products which ship from China that are affected. Not Apple silicon chips, which would ship from Taiwan which has its own separate set of tariffs,  or semiconductors in general from China as nothing is being assembled here in the US now. 

IIRC the tariff will apply to products using semiconductors too, not just the semiconductors themselves.

fastasleep said:

AppleInsider said:

The letter also fails to mention that even as Apple is exempted for now, the grace period is temporary. President Trump says semiconductor tariffs were on the way. So, soon Apple may be hit with the full force of tariffs on China and its Apple Silicon chips. 

This makes no sense. Apple is vulnerable to tariffs on the finished products with are assembled in China, and shipped to the US. Not Apple silicon chips which are made in Taiwan, shipped to China, assembled into the devices which are then shipped from China to the US. Apple silicon chips are not shipped to the US, at least not en masse or as consumer products.

The whole point of tariffs, according to Trump sometimes, is to bring manufacturing back to the United States. So, if Apple has to import parts like semiconductors, then it's going to get hit with a tariff. If it builds overseas and imports, it's hit with a different tariff. So, there is effectively no way to avoid a tariff.

Doesn't seem like a good strategy.

linkman said:

hmlongco said:

Love the Apple TV but... ever since Movies and TV moved to the Apple TV app I've had consistent issues with my purchased Movie tiles updating. Just row after row of blank gray tiles that either don't update at all or, if they do, update one after another every 2-3 seconds or so.

The problem probably lies with rewriting the app in SwiftUI and more to the point, the fact that I now have over 800 movies I've purchased over the past couple of decades.

I am--unfortunately--a big fan of picking up movies that were listed as $3-$5 on the Friday sales, discounted bundles, and so on, and I suspect that they simply don't run tests on accounts that large.

I have about 525 movies and I'll see the blank icons when it refreshes them but most of the time I see them with their normal icons. I would bet Apple has tested it with libraries in the thousands (there are plenty of people out there with them, trust me) and what you see is most likely not due to a large library.

I have a lot of purchased movies and TV series. (idk off the top of my head, and Apple doesn't display that number anymore in the TV app, but more than 1,200 movies alone). They all appear instantly on load. This was an issue on older Apple TV models, but Apple fixed it. There might be a specific bug affecting your library. Can always contact Apple Support and see if you can get them to find the issue. Could also be related to your region if you're outside the United States, as the fix may not have reached every market.

Ok, had to delete some incredibly off topic and rule breaking threads that are just useless screaming matches. Let's chill out.

And as a reminder: It isn't illegal to be a monopoly. It is illegal (or at least heavily regulated globally) if a monopoly uses its power of a specific market to manipulate that market or others. The EU has a right to govern how it sees fit, even if some of its policy seems unfairly targeted towards Apple. It is up to Apple to work through the litigation and arrive at a happy medium. These things take time, and the world leaders having pissing matches won't help either.

Patience. This fine was a pittance for the affected companies. We'll see where it goes from here.

Avoid insulting each other, politically charged comments, or leaving the topic entirely to make some kind of random point. There's no need for that.