cypresstree

I would agree - the weirdest factually incorrect rant I’ve seen in a while. 

But different strokes I guess. I have all my firesticks as backups on different inputs while ATV 4ks do all the heavy lifting in this house. 

loopless said:

microbe said:

I have three Apple TVs sitting in a drawer because the system is basically obnoxious. Their constant screaming to reenter PWs. to change streams and the hassles to change users (and associated PWs ) before you can access programming from different accounts will have you looking up pws most of the evening instead of viewing. And enetering them on those remotes is enough to make suicide legal! The screen is cluttered as much as any other box but in a different way. Not as cluttered  as my two Fire TV Cubes but more than the Roku in my theater. And the remotes!! Apple=horrible, Fire pretty nice and Roku solid and easy to use. Backlighting would help on all three. Regarding data collection, much of it is program viewing which I would urge them to collect for the simple reason they will sell it to the ratings companies, and programs I like get reported as having eyes on, hopefully prolonging their existence. Which leads us to pricing…. Why not save money for equal performance? Not to mention Apples habit of knocking  products, particularly these, into the twilight zone with updates for which there is no recourse, as has happened to two in the past. Which has led to me throwing the perfectly good remaining HD and two 4K Apple TVs into a drawere marked “get rid of”.

Odd rant. I use both a roku and Apple TV. The Apple TV is just a much better quality device . Roku needs you to sign in too all your services like Netflix, Hulu etc anyway so your “complaint” about signing in all the time on atv vs roku is just plain wrong. In any event atv will let you use your iPhone for password  entry, and auto fill from keychain. Lastly, I like the clean modern atv remote instead of the play school roku device.

asdasd said:

When your remote is more expensive than a competitors product .....

I could buy 2 fire sticks for this. 

Anybody want to justify the price? Most remotes are <$10. I have an Apple TV and I don't really like the old remote, but this is insanely priced. 

sdw2001 said:

EsquireCats said:

AppleTV+ debuted in November 2019.
So it’s basically a year old and the majority of that time has been during a pandemic. Which is not exactly the best environment for securing staff and production.  Nevermind that the service itself also requires an Apple device or a recent supported 3rd party device.

Meanwhile Netflix has been around since 1997.

I dare say Apple has done *plenty* more since 1997 than Netflix has. 

You make some decent points, but the the one about Netflix isn’t one of them. Netflix was not a streamer in 1997.  They didn’t even start until 2007, and the effort didn’t fully takeoff until 2013 when they invested in House of Cards.  

Apple is doing it on opposite fashion...producing original content first.  Apple’s problem will continue to be the lack of a back catalog.  Granted, it’s 5 bucks.  But Disney+ is $6.99 and soon $7.99.  I’m not a subscriber, but they have an absolutely insane amount of content. I have Netflix, prime, YouTube TV, and free HBO max in addition to free AppleTV+ until July.  The only show I’ve watched is For All Mankind.  I also watched Greyhound.  We’ll see if I end up paying for it after July.  Either way, I think Apple TV+ is going to be a nascent effort until they get a serious amount of content somewhere.