ArchStanton

GeorgeBMac said:

ArchStanton said:

APPLE2c-1984 said:

Trolling is attacking a poster rather than presenting intelligent arguments and discussing.
Regardless of ideas, the lack of them is the only common point in most posts regarding this matter. There may be people who find this so important they signed up to comment - you are very welcome. This was all very obvious for a very long time now, especially since the Epic attack on Apple. Iv been a dedicated Apple Insider for twenty years now and commenting for a decade, so for some of us this has been widely debated. But again it seems crucial for non-trolls to realize the sheer size and scope of this matter.

1 - Anti-Trust laws are there for a reason, and we wouldnt have Apple now if they hadnt been upheld before.
People attacking the regulator approach will always have the option to keep exactly the same phone usage, only further options will be available to the rest.

2 - Security downgrade claims are blatantly fallacious, when what is being advocated by common sense here is simply allowing the same App Store sandboxing magic to other app stores.
If Apple simply curates third-party app stores like it does its apps, its phenomenal security will be remain just the same for the former.

That’s personal trolling. It can be bad. There’s also astroturfed trolls. The astroturf trolls typically can be identified from the ongoing basis of their posting content. Just as a random example, say an Apple fan site, the poster is repeatedly posting anti Apple messaging. This kind of trolling also can be seen, as another example, in the ratings section of Amazon. Astroturfed trolls specifically posting purposeful messaging ratings meant to sway users/customers over to their ultimate sponsor. 

LOL... I didn't realize that this site is restricted to FanBoys only!   Thanks for letting us know.   /s

Thanks for your opinion, but I and others prefer truth over fantasy.

And sorry but, in general, even though Apple consistently churns out great products and services, it is not perfect and none of their products are perfect for all solutions.  I know it's hard, but you'll just have to deal with that.

OutdoorAppDeveloper said:

Delaying a new technology or product to get it right is always the right decision. Far better than rushing out garbage, especially when it comes to home automation. I just hope that Matter has a way to operate on an air gapped server in your home. I don't trust any of the companies listed to have sensors inside my house if they are connected to servers elsewhere. Sadly that now includes Apple.

22july2013 said:

mfryd said:

22july2013 said:

Can someone tell me why companies like this require a standalone app instead of using the built-in Apple TV app? I really don't know the reason, but I presume it's to spy on and track their users better than Apple allows.

Here are a few possible reasons:

1. Integration with the Apple TV app only works on Apple TV.  They still would need to maintain apps for other streaming boxes.  An independent app reduces development time, and reduces maintenance costs as they can maintain a common code base across all platforms
2. Having the same app across all platforms makes it easier to provide customer service,  Your agents only need to be trained for one app.
3. Having a separate app allows them to provide features not available on the Apple TV app.  That can set them apart from competing services.
4. The Apple TV app includes content from competing services.  This can lead to views preferring those services and canceling this service.

Your points are somewhat fair, but I wish to make a couple of rejoinders.

For point 1, integration with the Apple TV app works across all Apple device (eg, Macs, iPhones, iPads) not just on the Apple TV hardware. That's a pretty big community. Probably 1,000,000,000 users, all of whom have the Apple TV app. By comparison Roku has a tiny 50,000,000 user base.

For point 2, while true, it's not the agents that the media company should be worried about - it's the users who pay them. I come to the Apple system for simplicity, and I don't buy from companies that tell me to learn a new way of business to use their service. Every moment that I used the Disney+ app I was frustrated. I kept saying to myself "How does this work and why did they do this?"

Point 4 doesn't seem to be a problem, it seems to be a solution. When I drive through a city, all restaurants tend to be next to each other. That's not bad for business, that's good for business. If it's offered through the Apple TV app I will know about it. If it isn't offered through the Apple TV app they have to reach me through ads, and I don't see many ads by virtue of the reason that I like to stream my media.

Are you denying that a standalone apps makes it easier to track users? You didn't refute that. I still suspect that that's the main reason. We may never know the true reason.

itinj24 said:

I guess this explains why all the newly announced Google cams don’t support “Matter”

Was really looking forward to this soon. Oh well, there’s always next year. 

CheeseFreeze said:

dantheman827 said:

If you're in the US, one thing you can do that might help is to contact your senators and ask them to co-sponsor this bill, with any luck they might just listen to their constituents.

 

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/117/s2710/comment

Why on Earth would you sponsor something that goes against a free market?

This is big tech lobbying; they know the tide is turning. I wholeheartedly support side-loading of apps and App Stores on Android and iPhone with the full responsibility and consent of the end-user. If they want to, they can stick with Apple; if they want more freedom, they use an alternative. Nobody loses.