ArchStanton

"Apple Employees"? Multiple tens of thousands voiced concern or 20 did? I don't like these misleading headlines. It allows a few people to control the public message. 

Apple, as another poster said, is still by far the best game in town. 

CSAM is probably not the hill to fight the privacy battle. Be sure that government will come to Apple and push for more. That's a better hill to fight the battle. 

OutdoorAppDeveloper said:

Reasons to upgrade if you didn't buy last year's iPhone.
1. Mag safe. It's not a new feature but it was the best feature last year and it has likely been improved in the iPhone 13.
2. Improved 5G support. Don't know how it's better but it will be based on Apple's comments. Likely will be more improved in the iPhone 14 though.
3. That sweet, sweet Apple Silicon. Same as always. Awesome as always.
4. Because your spouse/kid/parent needs an upgrade and can have your hand-me-down. It's a kind of recycling.

Wait, why didn't I mention the camera that Apple will spend half the presentation gushing over? Because in the end you take a picture and it looks great. Most people can't tell the difference generation to generation and don't use all the new features. The iPhone 13 won't have a super zoom sadly. I would love to see craters on the Moon but that will have to wait until Apple implements a prism it seems.

To each their own, they’ll be a few who want this, but super zoom is not something that is clamored for by any iPhone user I know. The practical use of it is in very limited circumstances. 

flydog said:

frayapple said:

Sorry. If they launch without Touch ID Apple can kiss post-pandemic sales bye-bye. Calls to warrant masks again make it important as ever. I’ll jump to an Android. 

This comment won't age well. 

The comment that sales will go “bye bye” without Touch ID didn’t have an age, it was dead on arrival. However, there could be some comedy value that has a day or two shelf life. 

xyzzy-xxx said:

Since Apple is turning iOS into a platform spying their paying users I will wait until the content of this update is disclosed before installing it...

Samsung likely didn't put out an iOS version because Apple owns it with iPhone users. Companies, Apple Samsung Google Whoever, are in business to make a profit. You don't spend big money on a product version you know you can't get sufficient sales on.
Someone who has an iPhone not getting the Apple Watch (except for specific highly involved training, outdoors and the like) is whistling past the graveyard. I helped my friend with her Samsung watch (she has a Galaxy). Very nice display, not putting down the device, but side by side operation to an Apple Watch? With what you can do as an iPhone user almost right out of the box with an Apple Watch? It was just no comparison. The single roof engineering providing the interoperating eco really comes through on the Apple Watch. 
With that said, I know Google partnered with Samsung on this one. Maybe that allowed them to step it up. But what so many (most of them non iPhone users) never seem to get is that it isn't just a standalone device. Apple sells the interoperation of the parts. And from that stand point it is almost impossible for disparate companies to recreate the kind of interoperation.