Rogue01

dewme said:

Apple Silicon is one of the best planned and best executed moves by Apple - ever. If you're going to talk about Tim Cook's legacy, Apple Silicon has to be one of the crown jewels of his accomplishments at Apple. Truly masterful. 

Fortunately, Apple does not appear to be resting on its laurels with Apple Silicon. The competition is hot on Apple's heels and they have emerged from way way over the horizon to be within striking distance. As long as Apple continues to leverage not only the success of Apple Silicon, but everything else that makes Apple so unique, they will be in great shape. There can be no pause in the action. Intel paused and AMD caught them. Intel paused some more and Apple abandoned them. Now Intel is struggling to get back just to the wake of the slowest leaders. 

I know there has been a lot of turmoil and disruption in the marketplace caused by politics, and Apple has stumbled a little bit with Apple Intelligence and Siri, but it seems from the outside looking in that Apple still has its foot firmly planted on the accelerator pedal when it comes to Apple Silicon. They have to. Apple can't wait for the dust to settle from the passing bullshitnado to figure out where their next opportunity will be. Apple Silicon needs to stay on the fast track.

Are you in a reality distortion field?  
1) Tim Cook had nothing to do with Apple Silicon.  Apple had been using their own chips since the iPhone 4 in 2010 with the A4 chip.  The A chips and M chips are ARM processors.  Apple did not invent ARM.  The first ARM-based Mac was the development Mac mini with the A12Z, another evolution of the A chip.  The first M chip was based off the A14.  It was a natural evolution to start using ARM chips in Macs.  Rumors about that swirled for years.

2) The best executed move by Apple?  It took Apple 3 1/2 years to finish transitioning all Macs to Apple Silicon.  Apple finished the Intel transition in 278 days.  Apple did a better job transitioning from 680x0 to PowerPC, compared to the Apple Silicon transition.  And the final Apple Silicon Mac?   The disastrous Mac Pro that was a huge disappointment, and still is.  The first M1 Macs were avoided in the Enterprise market because they didn't support multiple external displays.  It took Apple over a year to fix that mistake with the M1 Pro and M1 Max.

3) Apple has its foot on the accelerator pedal?  Really?  With Intel, Apple had new and faster Macs each year.  With Apple Silicon, it has taken years for Apple to update the Macs.  Some Macs were completely abandoned for years, hello M1 iMac, no upgrade for about 2 years.  Apple called the MacBook Air 15" new, but used a year and a half old M2 chip.  iPads got better M chips before Macs, yet the iPads could not take advantage of the faster chip.  The Mac Pro still has an outdated M2 Ultra chip, has useless expansion slots, and costs a staggering $7,000.  Only when the M4 came out, 6 months after doing nothing in an iPad, Apple finally updates all the Macs, except for the Mac Pro.  Apple's roadmap is a mess.  Intel Macs were faster than PowerPC and cost less.  Jobs made that happen.  Apple Silicon Macs have gone up in price, especially with RAM and SSD upgrades that users are no longer allowed to upgrade later.

Yes, Apple Silicon is fast.  But Apple's execution is just bizarre.  Macs abandoned and not updated.  iPads getting better chips than Macs.  No wonder no one knows what to buy or when to upgrade.  With Apple's ridiculous prices on memory and SSD, users are forced to pay the tax up front for the upgrades, I would never buy a new Mac.  I would buy one on clearance from B&H at a heavily reduced price that is nicely upgraded.

Until Apple can fix the random CarPlay disconnect issues, I don't want CarPlay taking over the entire car.  The gauge cluster would be constantly flipping back and forth between the OEM digital gauges and Apple's digital gauges.  Error is always the same, 'iPhone is not responding' and have to unplug and plug the phone back in and it reconnects, only to disconnect again, randomly at different times.

Apple does ‘coerce’ the user to use iCloud backup by defaulting the feature to ‘on’ and only giving a measly 5GB storage which is not enough space, so iOS constantly prompts the user to buy iCloud.  Many people do fall for it.  Apple did that on purpose.  

randominternetperson said:

Rogue01 said:

Developers are not really interested in making apps for a platform that no one is interested in buying or using.  AR/VR has never been popular or something that consumers feel they need.  3DTV bombed because people did not even want to wear glasses, let alone big heavy goggles.  And consumers are not spending $3500 on a product they don't 'need' in their life.  Apple did not solve any problems with this device.  They are better off just killing it and putting the resources to improving iOS, macOS and iPadOS, the systems that consumers actually use and upgrade over time.

Even watchOS is dead and developers have pretty much abandoned that platform.  The last 5 versions of the watch were uneventful with very little to offer.  I don't even wear my Watch 5 anymore.  Just sits on a charger.  Has some cool fitness apps, but much easier to just look at my phone.

Some may not agree, but that is the reality of it.  Any time I have been at an Apple Store, people are looking at phones and Macs.  They don't even look at the Vision Pro because it is so stupidly expensive, and they don't have a need for it.

LOL

Your Visio Pro take is fine. Your Apple Watch take is bizarre. Apple Watch is ubiquitous in the wild. The fact you don't wear your 6-year old AW is irrelevant. I do wonder why you keep charging it however. Give it away or sell it.

It is not irrelevant.  It runs watchOS 10, so not that outdated.  But since I work from home, don't have any reason to wear it.  Once in awhile I might wear it, if I am going somewhere and want to track any walking distance, but there are no apps for the watch that are meaningful, so even a current Apple Watch would be useless as well.  Biggest downside, after 10 years of Apple making a watch, you still need to charge it every single day.  When Apple advertised the Watch, they were hoping for a 'killer' app, and it never happened because people would rather look at the larger screen on the phone, which is with them already, then the tiny screen on the watch.  Over the years, developers pretty much gave up on the watch.  Yes, the watch is way more popular than the Vision Pro, but it is really only good for the Apple-based apps.  The Watch 5 has zero resale value.  People are selling the Watch 9 on Facebook Marketplace for about $200 or less.  With watchOS 10, it still does pretty much everything the current model does, so no reason to ever buy a new one.  When developers have no interest, then it is pretty obvious.

Developers are not really interested in making apps for a platform that no one is interested in buying or using.  AR/VR has never been popular or something that consumers feel they need.  3DTV bombed because people did not even want to wear glasses, let alone big heavy goggles.  And consumers are not spending $3500 on a product they don't 'need' in their life.  Apple did not solve any problems with this device.  They are better off just killing it and putting the resources to improving iOS, macOS and iPadOS, the systems that consumers actually use and upgrade over time.

Even watchOS is dead and developers have pretty much abandoned that platform.  The last 5 versions of the watch were uneventful with very little to offer.  I don't even wear my Watch 5 anymore.  Just sits on a charger.  Has some cool fitness apps, but much easier to just look at my phone.

Some may not agree, but that is the reality of it.  Any time I have been at an Apple Store, people are looking at phones and Macs.  They don't even look at the Vision Pro because it is so stupidly expensive, and they don't have a need for it.