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Trump 'Liberation Day' tariffs blocked by U.S. trade court
Not as much as you think. The Supreme Court has ruled against him a couple of times lately. Even they’re getting tired of his antics and his trashing the legal systemNickoTT said:
Yes, this will be appealed all the way to the Supreme Court, who are in Donald Trump's pocket. The conservative majority will find a way to twist reality and the Constitution into giving the power back to him so he can continue on his deranged merry way.Jim_MAY said:The Trump Administration will advance an appeal to the Supreme Court. Congress gave tariff powers to the Presidents long ago.
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Nothing CEO takes shots at Apple, ludicrously says that apps are going away
It’s not like EVERY OTHER tech company’s first attempts at AI haven’t been dumpsters fires. They held off on what they did, because they didn’t want a put a glue on pizza debacle. That said, I’m fine if they never release it. AI is a smoke show that isn’t going to get much better than it is now and it’s all based on stealing from othersMassiveAttack said:He is right. Apple is not as innovative as Apple was before.
Apple Intelligence = Apple Incompetence.
But will Nothing still be around in 7 ~ 10 years?
I dunno.
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Trump's 25% smartphone tariff starts just in time for the iPhone 17
Exactly. There is realistically no way at all to have an iPhone completely built and have all the components made herespheric said:
And that is only ASSEMBLED in the U.S. Virtually all the components and electronics come from China — and are subject to tariffs, accordingly.Chock_Mossley said:
Some of the reasons why they don’t build them here is due to our minimum wage and labor unions. To make things at the scale of an iPhone the cost in terms of manpower, overtime, benefits, pensions, etc. add to the cost to make iPhones here. It’s why the only thing really being built here is the extremely low volume Mac ProCalamander said:Countries making iPhones
- India
- Vietnam
- Brazil
Soon: Indonesia - same thing they said you can't sell iPhones here if you don't make any here. Apple agreed to invest $1Bn.
But... the USA can't do it? So India can do it. Vietnam can do it. Brazil (high tech wonderland lol) can make iPhones.
Surely it's going to be a huge hassle to set up iPhone production in the USA, when nothing's been made here for decades. But in the long run, it will be a lot better for Apple. Apple also has north of 200Bn in cash stashed away, so they can afford it many times over to invest in plants here.
As it is, Apple is extremely reliant on China. China can basically do whatever it wants with Apple, and Apple has to say yes. Not a good position to be n.
Labor costs won't be an issue since plants can be 100% automated - as Xiaomi has shown.
SpaceX makes Starlink devices in Texas, Tesla cars in Californa and Texas, plus a giant automated gigafactory for batteries in Nevada. So yeah, absolutely, high tech can be made in the USA. I am not saying it's easy, or a piece of cake, but it can be done. Maybe Tim should ask Elon for advice...
PS: Xiaomi was copying Tesla for factory automation... Tesla factories are the most modern in the world. Elon invested a lot of time and energy in making them efficient to the point where they're better than anyone else's factories.
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Trump's 25% smartphone tariff starts just in time for the iPhone 17
And we know they’re definitely not going to get more affordable, thanks to the deranged Oompa Loompa in chiefchasm said:
In point of fact, foldable phones are a pretty neat product (I've played with one), but the fact that they retail for around $2K has not done much for sales.bushman4 said:Apples biggest problem is not the 25% tariff it’s the fact that they’ve fallen behind on AI , Foldable iPhone etc.
People will pay for technology that’s state of the art with all the bells and whistles. Apple has to catch up on AI or buy a company and integrate it into Apples AI
also Apple glasses everybody’s waiting let’s go
You don't see them in the wild outside some of the richer Asian nations, and they are certainly not a mass-market item even several years after introduction, to say nothing of the poor durability of them.
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Trump's 25% smartphone tariff starts just in time for the iPhone 17
Some of the reasons why they don’t build them here is due to our minimum wage and labor unions. To make things at the scale of an iPhone the cost in terms of manpower, overtime, benefits, pensions, etc. add to the cost to make iPhones here. It’s why the only thing really being built here is the extremely low volume Mac ProCalamander said:Countries making iPhones
- India
- Vietnam
- Brazil
Soon: Indonesia - same thing they said you can't sell iPhones here if you don't make any here. Apple agreed to invest $1Bn.
But... the USA can't do it? So India can do it. Vietnam can do it. Brazil (high tech wonderland lol) can make iPhones.
Surely it's going to be a huge hassle to set up iPhone production in the USA, when nothing's been made here for decades. But in the long run, it will be a lot better for Apple. Apple also has north of 200Bn in cash stashed away, so they can afford it many times over to invest in plants here.
As it is, Apple is extremely reliant on China. China can basically do whatever it wants with Apple, and Apple has to say yes. Not a good position to be n.
Labor costs won't be an issue since plants can be 100% automated - as Xiaomi has shown.
SpaceX makes Starlink devices in Texas, Tesla cars in Californa and Texas, plus a giant automated gigafactory for batteries in Nevada. So yeah, absolutely, high tech can be made in the USA. I am not saying it's easy, or a piece of cake, but it can be done. Maybe Tim should ask Elon for advice...
PS: Xiaomi was copying Tesla for factory automation... Tesla factories are the most modern in the world. Elon invested a lot of time and energy in making them efficient to the point where they're better than anyone else's factories.
