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Xed said:

apple4thewin said:

aderutter said:

If you look at Adobe apps for example, they benefit more from CPU as long as the GPU is at a certain level. Once a user has a mid-range GPU then they don’t need GPU as much as RAM & CPU (and the real-life RAM requirements have decreased with Apple Silicon). 

Another example is ZBrush which is purely CPU based. Even most of the time working in other 3D applications the CPU is more imporant as people working in 3D spend more time not-rendering than rendering and the machine can render while you put the kettle on. 

It’s gamers and some 3d renderers that use more GPU - but CPU 3D Rendering is more accurate and so CPU rendering (obviously with farms) is the default in hollywood whilst us mortals have to just use what’s available on our budgets - typically a desktop GPU rather than a cloud render. The usual options when thinking only of rendering for games or lower-end 3D rendering are GPU (cheap and fast on PC), or CPU (slower, more accurate and slightly better on Mac generally).  

When/if Apple release an M4 Ultra that is twice the performance M4 Max (GPU) it should be equivalent to an Nvidia 4090 and set the cat amongst the pigeons. 2025 could be the start of Apple desktop disruption.

Unless Apple stops overcharging for memory and storage probably not. Current prices for “

Apple M2 Ultra with 24‑core CPU, 76‑core GPU, 32‑core Neural Engine64GB unified memory2TB SSD storage”Equals to 5,399.99 and a prebuilt pc with a 4090 equals to 3,999.99  https://www.bestbuy.com/site/corsair-vengeance-a7400-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-9-9900x-64gb-rgb-ddr5-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-2tb-ssd-black/6604319.p?skuId=6604319

That's not a valid argument for a claim of overcharging. You want to try again?

aderutter said:

If you look at Adobe apps for example, they benefit more from CPU as long as the GPU is at a certain level. Once a user has a mid-range GPU then they don’t need GPU as much as RAM & CPU (and the real-life RAM requirements have decreased with Apple Silicon). 

Another example is ZBrush which is purely CPU based. Even most of the time working in other 3D applications the CPU is more imporant as people working in 3D spend more time not-rendering than rendering and the machine can render while you put the kettle on. 

It’s gamers and some 3d renderers that use more GPU - but CPU 3D Rendering is more accurate and so CPU rendering (obviously with farms) is the default in hollywood whilst us mortals have to just use what’s available on our budgets - typically a desktop GPU rather than a cloud render. The usual options when thinking only of rendering for games or lower-end 3D rendering are GPU (cheap and fast on PC), or CPU (slower, more accurate and slightly better on Mac generally).  

When/if Apple release an M4 Ultra that is twice the performance M4 Max (GPU) it should be equivalent to an Nvidia 4090 and set the cat amongst the pigeons. 2025 could be the start of Apple desktop disruption.

foregoneconclusion said:

ssfe11 said:

Ya the Trump Administration is not going to allow the EU to bully American companies anymore. Thst nonsense is going to stop

Instead they're going to bully American consumers by increasing the prices of products via tariffs and kowtowing to the economic whims of billionaires that offer the largest bribes for even larger taxpayer subsidies of their pet projects.