john f.

steven n. said:

The thing most people miss is the protesters achieved their goal of blocking the extradition law and now they risk looking like basic anarchists. This will hurt in future protests since people won’t be able to relate to your grievance; people will simply assume you’re a malcontent. 

True. Right now, there is no end game. Where do protesters want to go with this? They got what they wanted, and weren't satisfied. Now China won't be willing to give in to anything, because it will be seen as useless. There is nowhere to go with this. Yes, Hong Kong was promised "One country, two systems" for 50 years, and China has been nibbling on that promise since the handover. But in the end, Hong Kong is China, and they can they whatever they want. There is no way for the west to intervene in this; it's their territory. And the people of Hong Kong can only ask so much. Go too far and China won't be lenient.

And the app thing. The exact info is accessible on the web. Apple isn't really cutting people off from the info. This app discussion is just to make things political: should Apple or shouldn't Apple be a justice warrior? The thing is, Apple can do good things in many other ways. It doesn't always have to be this big "we must change this country now" thing, and "we must take a stand now". The people will eventually change China. And the west having good relations with China will over decades influence the people towards a more western attitude. If the people of China resent the west, then things will never change.