kojack

williamlondon said:

kojack said:

tundraboy said:

Yeah, as great as a designer as he is, Jony started to sacrifice too much utility and durability at the altar of form.  (Much like Frank Lloyd Wright's buildings and houses looked great and innovative but were prone to structural and water damage.)  Jony's departure was timely.  He was probably getting bored too as there is only so much designing one can do on thin rectangular bricks.

You mean to say there was only so much thickness he could shave off the devices before they were completely unusable right?  He's a one trick pony. I have seen other things he "designed" too. The leica camera which was a terrible design. His pretentious "lovefrom award"...He's washed up now. It's great to see apple moving away from his god awful choices of thinner at all costs design to moving back to acutal function over form.  I did like the idea of the touchbar, as it could do many things if implemented correctly.

What a charmer you are denigrating someone that is responsible for so much of Apple's successes. Easy to do from your internet armchair. You realise most of the planet disagrees with you, but go ahead with your little silly narrative that you are this master designer critique and Jony Ive is crap, and rewrite history in your own mind, doesn't make it so.

Keep defending poor choices all in the name of the almighty fruit. Where to start. 

• removal of ports
• poorly designed keyboards that routinely failed in the name of thinness
• Notch for face ID instead of proper design of the system and touch ID remaining
• thinner iPhones to the point that if you look at them wrong, they would bend.
• thinner iphones at the expense of battery life. 
• regurgitation of current designs over and over
• fragile macbooks where the slightest movement of the lid would crack the screen glass by the macbook label
• piss poor cpu/gpu cooling on macbook pro in the name of thinness
• removal of any user upgradability for macbook, imac, mac mini

the list goes on and on.  The "AMAZING" jony Ive leica camera. built from the slipperiest materials known to man. All buttons removed for image control in favor of touchscreen menus which are useless basically for a camera. 

And NO. the "world" does not disagree with me.  Even apple does not since they are reversing many of the silly design flaws Johnny instilled in apples design philosophy until his firing. 

williamlondon said:

shareef777 said:

kojack said:

crowley said:

tommikele said:

Don't like the conditions and your employer isn't breaking the law? Have conviction and quit. Walking off the job is a very different thing than a protest. By all means protest. Walk off the job? See you at the unemployment office.

Disagree pretty much entirely.  Be the change you want to see in the world, don't just turn your back on it.

You have to realise what company they are fighting. Most people here are "apple can do no wrong" types.  I am supporting the workers 100 percent. Just as I support the Amazon workers taking a stand.  Terrible working conditions are terrible working conditions no matter what company it is.  Most people here think apple's farts smell like roses and baby powder. They are a megacorporation who do not care about anything other than the almighty dollar. End of story.

Yeah, I’ve jumped from forum to forum and it’s always the same. Apple Cult is a real thing.

So are trolls.

It's not Trolling if it's the truth. 

MacPro said:

Apple gear is so easy to set up these days I can see them using vending machines to dispense boxes and a few robots to answer questions in the near future at Apple Stores. I'd far rather insert my Apple card and have a new iPhone of my choice pop out than have to go through the hassle they have in the Apple Stores now. The same goes for most of the stuff they sell now.

Not just apple products either.  Everything should be like that. I only buy my phones at the carrier. Most times now I will get them sent to us. If the new iPhone 14 is what they are leaking, I will probably buy two direct from apple this time.  Bypass the contract nonsense. But being on both sides of the fence when it comes to the labor force, I will back the the employees EVERYTIME.  I was a business owner of two highly successful construction companies. I always treated my employees with great respect as they were the ones ultimately making my profit for me.  If I had a good year, I made sure they had a good year. I even gave my foreman for my steel crew a new travel trailer. That's how you keep a work force happy. I took over the business from my father and that foreman was with us since 1982. We sold the business when the landscape of the industry changed here. Compound in my son was born with autism and I wanted to stay home close to him. 

danox said:

hexclock said:

My advice to these employees is, go learn a skilled trade. You can make all the money you’ll ever need and don’t even need to take out a school loan. Get out of retail, it’s a dead end, just like restaurants. Yeah, you might need to get dirty, work outside, in the cold or blazing heat, but in the end it’s an honest living, and skilled trades of all types are in desperate need of younger workers. 

Union Fire Sprinkler Pipe fitters hard work great pay benefits

Yes, Union.  First thing, if something like this happend to union workers, they would be doing the EXACT same thing these apple workers are doing. 

tundraboy said:

Yeah, as great as a designer as he is, Jony started to sacrifice too much utility and durability at the altar of form.  (Much like Frank Lloyd Wright's buildings and houses looked great and innovative but were prone to structural and water damage.)  Jony's departure was timely.  He was probably getting bored too as there is only so much designing one can do on thin rectangular bricks.

You mean to say there was only so much thickness he could shave off the devices before they were completely unusable right?  He's a one trick pony. I have seen other things he "designed" too. The leica camera which was a terrible design. His pretentious "lovefrom award"...He's washed up now. It's great to see apple moving away from his god awful choices of thinner at all costs design to moving back to acutal function over form.  I did like the idea of the touchbar, as it could do many things if implemented correctly.