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Something that irks me is not Apple or Facebook related, but AppleInsider related. They regularly publish details about companies slating Facebook and similar for nonconsensual tracking, and yet AI has 24 nonconsensual trackers blocked by Safari. In fact they don't comply with GDPR, which is breaking the law, as they have no cookie popup unlike pretty much every other Apple-centric site. Why not, AI? Also, how long until this comment gets disappeared? 

GeorgeBMac said:

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thrang said:

While I understand that Wistron is responsible here, Apple does not look good with what appears to be a lack of oversight, especially of a newer operation. 

Unless Wistron was cooking numbers that Apple reviewed. But I would think the would have a large team of inspectors to independently and directly verify compliance with their contract standards.

Apple didn't go into India because they wanted to.   They went there (with one of their suppliers) due to extortion by the Indian government.   They likely knew that their hands were tied and their options limited.

India forced Apple, an American company with no ties to India, to sell their phones there? Huh. That's definitely out of order.

You need to pay better attention to news.

India told them:   if you don't manufacture here you don't sell here.   Had that been China heads would be exploding.   But, it was India.

So yeh, the only reason Apple was there was because of India's extortion.

So Apple had a choice: Sell in India or don't sell in India. India didn't force Apple to sell in India as your first post claimed. India forced Apple to manufacture in India if it wanted to sell there too. Just the same as the US government "extorts" money from foreign companies who want to sell in the US by way of taxes. No different. Apple made the decision that it was worth spending the money on manufacturing in India to attempt to get a foothold there. 

Yeh, they did force Apple -- which is otherwise known as extortion.

But then India needed to resort to such low life tactics:   Nobody in their right mind would invest in that country without being extorted.

No, no, no and no.

Setting conditions for foreign companies to sell in your markets is not extortion, not by any common understanding of the word. It is a protectionist trade policy for sure, but it is not extortion, nor is it even that uncommon.  Apple were not forced to do anything.  India is not even a big market for them, so they could easily forego it (or relatively easily compared to the EU markets, which other idiots on this forum suggest Apple withdraw from).  The USA has had not dissimilar trade policies in the past, as have just about every country in the world that cares about its domestic economy.  Your insistence on labelling this as extortion is both literally wrong, and totally wrongheaded and backward.

Your insistence on trying to make India look bad while defending China at every opportunity is extremely suspect Georgie.  I suggest you re-examine your biases.

Extortion:  The practice of obtaining benefit through coercion.

India coerced Apple into manufacturing in that corrupt, unstable nation.   That makes it extortion.   

And coercion is "the practice of forcing another party to act in an involuntary manner by use of threats or force".  That did not happen.  Applying taxes in a consistent way to all foreign business is not a specific threat or force upon Apple, it's just an incentive to manufacture locally.  Like I said before, this happens all the time across the world, and while you may not like it if you're into free trade it's not illegal or corrupt, or any of the things you're painting it as.

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Because you hate China and love the nationalistic fascist running India doesn't make it anything other than extortion.   I'll stick to fact based reality.   You are free to hate communists and love fascists if you like.  But I think that is silly.

For the love of god George this is pathetic.  I don't like Modi, and I don't even disagree that India has a lot of problems with corruption, but that doesn't mean that you aren't way off base in calling this particular trade policy corrupt or extortion.  You are wrong.  And now you're using personal slander and straw men in place of your point.  You are just as bad as the people you think you're fighting against.  

Absolutely spot on!!! I also don't like Modi, and still couldn't see how someone can "extort" Apple so easily as George is claiming without any proof.

The proof is that they did.   Because you were not aware of it doesn't make it any less true.

I find it funny though that, if China had done it the China-Haters would be up in arms throwing their usual temper tantrums.   But, since it was India who did it they say:  "This isn't extortion.  It's normal!"

Well actually Georgie, that is exactly what China does. China - just like India - has high import taxes, which spurned local manufacturing back in the nascent days of China's industrial machine, and is doing so in India, exampled by Apple manufacturing there. But no one complained when China did that, and no one is complaining now. Nor are they calling it extortion. So, as China and India have similar policies on imports, you must think China is extorting foreign companies by having high import taxes too?

I don't doubt you won't actually answer that, just like how you've answered exactly none of the questions posed to you in this thread or elsewhere. Because you know you're wrong and have been outmanoeuvred, but you can't agree because you're so worried your Chinese investments might be affected, or your Chinese boss might discover your shilling has been derailed. Can't have that.

Well, no, China did not and does not use protective tariffs to block foreign imports (until they reciprocated against those of the U.S. and Australia).

But  you say:   "But no one complained" --- Geez!   All you guys DO is complain!  Whine and complain.   Just like your leader.

Oh yes they do. 130% general duty rate. Now that is extortionate. Plus VAT and Consumption Tax. So more pro-China lies from GeorgeBMac. All you do is lie and attempt (and fail) to pull a facade over people's eyes. Just like your leader.

AppleInsider said:

A quick look at MagSafe Duo's specifications explains why the charger doesn't work with the older adapter.

And as well as not telling us here, the later linked article also has no mention of the 29w power supply directly. And Apple's page saying nothing more than it's incompatible.

LMFTFY: The 29w charger only deals with USB PD 2.0, and therefore whilst the 29w USB C PSU can supply the required 3a at 5v or 1.67a at 9v, it won't because the dock needs PD 3.0, and the USB PD 2.0 fallback  doesn't provide enough juice. A slightly more expensive voltage regulator that supported USB PD 2.0 and 3.0 in the dock would have dealt with that. Apple could have had a fallback to PD 2 or below, and had the dock charge one or the other items so that in a pinch (likely when travelling), you could borrow a super common USB A charger or use a USB A wall socket. I see USB-A wall sockets all over the place, yet to see a USB-C one. My Anker charging puck works just fine charging my iPhone X with a 5v/2a power supply, and I even have a 5w wireless charger that is slow but fine for overnight charging.

This thing is becoming a bigger and bigger white elephant as each day passes.

Ah, I may have found why GeorgeBMac is so blindly defensive of China: He invests in Asia.

In a similarly contrarian mode, GeorgeBMac, and a few other posters, likes the Matthews funds, which focus on investing in Asia

 Not sure why investors here get so defensive over their investment - it's not like any comment here is going to make one iota of difference to their holdings.

These are used for fitment purposes, so engineers can see inside to check everything fits together properly