Kierkegaarden

bulk001 said:

The Verge has “experts” who see it very differently https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/22/24109033/doj-apple-antitrust-lawsuit-legal-expert-praise That is why until a verdict is in, it is just speculation. 

nubus said:

Kierkegaarden said:

nubus said:

Kuminga said:

I work for an investment firm as a back end researcher and by yesterday afternoon , my bosses  were basically laughing at this outdated and idiotic indictment and the fact that the actual attorney general was made to stand there and read these outdated charges .

Your bosses should look at the Microsoft stock from 1995 to 2014. Antitrust cases don't help investors.

Antitrust cases don’t necessarily hurt investors.  For Microsoft, the big headwinds for their stock during that period was due to the internet bust, the GFC, and Ballmer.

The problems for MS started in 1995 - 5-6 years before the bubble and Ballmer. MS didn't get any boost from the bubble. For management and development to get sidetracked by legal issues is not good for a company.

tht said:

Kierkegaarden said:

nubus said:

Kuminga said:

I work for an investment firm as a back end researcher and by yesterday afternoon , my bosses  were basically laughing at this outdated and idiotic indictment and the fact that the actual attorney general was made to stand there and read these outdated charges .

Your bosses should look at the Microsoft stock from 1995 to 2014. Antitrust cases don't help investors.

Antitrust cases don’t necessarily hurt investors.  For Microsoft, the big headwinds for their stock during that period was due to the internet bust, the GFC, and Ballmer.

The GFC? What's that?

I think MS' biggest issue post DOJ was that Windows was a performance, security and malware nightmare in the 00s, and they lost the search war to Google. There weren't that many happy Windows customers. Firefox was a way to protect yourself while browsing the web. Chrome replaced FireFox as the browser of choice for safer browsing and it supported Google services the best. Even Apple thought Safari had a chance of taking share on Windows.

It was not uncommon for Windows users to experience performance rot and they had to reformat their drive and re-install Windows to get performance back. Some had to do this every few months. Oh, it always needs to said, it was not safe to browse the web using Windows in the 00s. It was very easy to for a user to innocently install some piece of unremovable malware where the easiest fix was a reformat and re-install because the malware inserted itself somewhere in Windows boot sequence. I repeat, the easiest solution was to reformat you hard disk and reinstall everything!

The fact that MS survived with their office automation and PC OS monopoly unscathed is testament to their "durability" to borrow an anti-trust term, and the toothlessness of the DOJ settlement. A PC operating system can not be successful without MS Office. MS can kill macOS and Macs simply by not updating Office for Mac.

Theoretically, Office for Web can enable a PC OS with a full featured browser to gain share, but MS can dial that down by limiting Office Web features, which is what they currently do.

The only vector of attack left for a PC OS competitor is "free". Linux. Google Chrome PCs has search money to bankroll that. But a genuine operating system vendor for PCs, whose model is to sell licenses? Dead. No chance. The DOJ did nothing there.

nubus said:

Kuminga said:

I work for an investment firm as a back end researcher and by yesterday afternoon , my bosses  were basically laughing at this outdated and idiotic indictment and the fact that the actual attorney general was made to stand there and read these outdated charges .

Your bosses should look at the Microsoft stock from 1995 to 2014. Antitrust cases don't help investors.

Fred257 said:

IWatches will soon be available on Android. 

Because I have kept up on a daily basis with Apple News and innovation since 1997 on a daily basis.