mayfly

waveparticle said:

mayfly said:

waveparticle said:

mayfly said:

waveparticle said:

avon b7 said:

mayfly said:

avon b7 said:

mayfly said:

avon b7 said:

I have to chuckle:

"This is textbook Chinese Communist Party (CCP) behavior - promote PRC (People's Republic of China) national champions in telecommunications, and slowly squeeze western companies' market access"

And what was the whole Huawei thing in the US about then? 

Slightly more of a squeeze! 

No way Apple would be complicit in allowing the NSA to install spyware on their iPhones for sale in China, the way the Chinese did on Huawei phones for sale here.

There was no mention of any of that in the quoted text. It amounted to protectionism, not spying.

Apple or Huawei wouldn't have to be complicit in anything when it comes to the NSA or Chinese equivalents. 

We know a fair bit about the NSA's activities though thanks to Snowden. 

As far a protectionism goes, the US had no cutting edge ICT infrastructure to protect but strong-arming Huawei out of the US (see the 2017 AT&T/Huawei situation) absolutely did protect Apple from Huawei on US soil.

That's why the quote is laughable. 

It was spying. And what you don't know can definitely hurt you. An FBI investigation in 2017 determined Chinese-made Huawei equipment could disrupt US nuclear arsenal communications. The FBI uncovered Chinese-made Huawei equipment atop cell towers near US military bases in the rural Midwest. According to multiple sources familiar with the matter, the FBI determined the equipment was capable of capturing and disrupting highly restricted Defense Department communications, including those used by US Strategic Command, which oversees the country’s nuclear weapons.

And you've obviously forgotten about the generous $100 million "Chinese Garden" Huawei was going to build on the highest spot in Washington, D.C.,  to be built 2 miles from the Capitol, using only parts delivered from China with "diplomatic pouch" designation, preventing inspection by US intelligence.

I don't know if you're a Chinese troll, but you sure sound like one.

That sounds like pure paranoia. 

It's simple. Huawei would not install anything close to miltary infrastructure to spy on anyone. 

Let's be clear, and this has been true for the last 30 years. Just ONE single piece of evidence of 'spying' would kill the company in an instant. Just one. Instant death for the company worldwide. 

Why take that risk? 

Why put scanning equipment up on a pole within site of military operations in plain sight where it can be confiscated, taken apart and used as evidence on national security grounds?

It would be literally suicide for the company. 

Does that make sense to you? 

If such a thing had existed, do you honestly think the US would have kept that evidence under the table and not paraded it around the world? 

Is that so difficult to understand? 

So, what's the story here? 

The story is there is no story. It's as simple as that. The equipment was probably just what it was. Rural ICT infrastructure. End of story. It just happened to be near an installation because that installation was in a rural setting.

As for strategic command, in Afghanistan all of the US Command communication that travelled over local ICT infrastructure, travelled over Huawei equipment. There were no complaints. 

Exactly! It is so sad American democracy has fallen so badly people cannot think without fallacy. My only explanation is St. Peter is deeply against the teachings of great Aristotle, Plato, and Socrates. How many Americans learned Aristotle Sophistical Refutations? They don't like to seek facts, talk facts! Wait! Maybe many of these China haters are not American? This is my only hope to America. 

Now you both sound like Chinese trolls. And yes, I've read Aristotle's viewpoint on sophistrym in addition to Plato (Socrates put nothing in writing, so we only have Plato's word for his teaching), and The Republic is certainly part treatise on sophistry, and very well defended! On the face of it, so is Aristotle's. But Aristotle not only hammers his ideas with tedious repetition and outright contradicts himself almost as much in his Nicomachean Ethics and Eudemian Ethics. I'd characterize his idea of sophistical refutation to be more solipsism than sophistry. Can't beat the Jesuit fathers for that early education in ancient western philosophy!

LOL Did you really read Aristotle Sophistical Refutations? Do you know what it is? Aristotle listed 13 fallacies in it. Did any philosopher proved any fallacy of the 13 fallacies? No! What is amazing is after twenty five hundred years many Americans still commit the fallacies. For example, the question cause in which a cause is incorrectly identified which @Tmay loves to use. For example: "Every time I go to sleep, the sun goes down. Therefore, my going to sleep causes the sun to set." The two events may coincide, but have no causal connection. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Questionable_cause

Yes, I know the difference between causation and correlation. I also know the difference between "found not guilty," and "did it." Recent impeachment efforts (going back to say, 1974) by both political parties are a perfect example. None were found guilty. They all did it.

BTW, "Did any philosopher proved any fallacy of the 13 fallacies?" is some tortured and barely intelligible syntax.

LOL You forgot your own words. "I'd characterize his idea of sophistical refutation to be more solipsism than sophistry. Can't beat the Jesuit fathers for that early education in ancient western philosophy!" You failed the question cause in which a cause is incorrectly identified.

netrox said:

rob53 said:

This really sucks because USB-C connectors are known to not stay connected. Lightning is just fine for phones, especially because this is a really good connector that actually stays connected. I continue to have issues with USB-C cables staying connected to external storage and my iMac. The connection keeps dropping, even after I tape the connector to the SSD enclosure. Move it a tiny bit and it disconnects. I've never had this problem with Lightning except when the cable has been damaged. It really upsets me that an inferior "standard" is being forced on Apple. Intel has never provided the computer market with a good connector.

 
I have 5 external drives via USB-C (4 via usb hub) and I don't have those issues on my iMac. Occasionally, it would disconnect and reconnect immediately and that is an expected behavior if USB devices didn't stay powered up (and no longer an issue when plugged into UPS). But if you yank the cable and it gets disconnected, then you have a bad cable. It shouldn't happen. 

basharar said:

rob53 said:

This really sucks because USB-C connectors are known to not stay connected. Lightning is just fine for phones, especially because this is a really good connector that actually stays connected. I continue to have issues with USB-C cables staying connected to external storage and my iMac. The connection keeps dropping, even after I tape the connector to the SSD enclosure. Move it a tiny bit and it disconnects. I've never had this problem with Lightning except when the cable has been damaged. It really upsets me that an inferior "standard" is being forced on Apple. Intel has never provided the computer market with a good connector.

I have NEVER  had a USB C drive disconnect, something is wrong with your cables, Mac or drives....

rob53 said:

This really sucks because USB-C connectors are known to not stay connected. Lightning is just fine for phones, especially because this is a really good connector that actually stays connected. I continue to have issues with USB-C cables staying connected to external storage and my iMac. The connection keeps dropping, even after I tape the connector to the SSD enclosure. Move it a tiny bit and it disconnects. I've never had this problem with Lightning except when the cable has been damaged. It really upsets me that an inferior "standard" is being forced on Apple. Intel has never provided the computer market with a good connector.