Possum-us

13485 said:

Possum-us said:

Ewww never simp for Giant Corporations no matter how much you enjoy a product of theirs. They are not your friends nor do you have to follow the narratives they choose to push. They are not working in your best interest. The priority is always them over you in time of need.

I think you miss understand "planned obsolescence". You talking like a serf which is alarming.

I am on Appleinsider, even though Apple is a giant cooperation I like Apple over many other choices out there.
But non of them are ever perfect, and in this consumer relationship I would never speak to the benifits that go against mine.
They have no clue or care about me and will do what makes their margins wider before ever thinking to adopt the "true needs" of the customer.
This situation always has this huge imbalance.

 The only thing we have in this form is a minute ability to drive narrative and point out directions you feel are sus and go against past assertions.

In this example it has nothing to do with something you can get somewhere else it is what is exclusive to Apple and what this can signify (and does signify) because of Apples past. 

The touchID is said to not work because of the OS version. The idea of the T2chip was to provide this secure enclave.
This was later integrated in there ARM chips and has been functional through out the change (intel and ARM).

This removal will work its way into "everything" this chip does if they convince people it is the OS, major changes, while the root hardware needed is the same.

The more comfortable they feel blaming it on something else the more they remove. ie the T2 chip was needed to stream 4k video or other media related services.
Well this old intel hardware with the same screens they use in current gen hardware will not be viable

Slowly removing the core "convenience" and usability to not "force" but genrally push you to adopt something new you don't honestly need for the function.

You look at what apple removes as well from there software side and being able to downgrade OS. There are features that really are not tide to anything innately different between OSes. There is more because of the new architectures but the practice has always happened far before the change.

Also crazy as it is to say after what I said

I think Apple does the best job of this in the system they partake in, they always give just enough. ie the lesser evil towards my goals.

But like I said I am not going to do what you did and prop narratives they want, that is ridiculous


 

I try to avoid being the grammar police, because this site has many posters for whom English is not a native language. But if you could just take a few minutes and actually compose sentences, spell and not use homophones (words that sound alike but have different meanings, such as "tide" instead of "tied") instead of the correct word, it would make reading your posts a little less of a chore. I'm sure you can, and we look forward to it.

Back to your post: Almost everyone who posts here, including the poster you're replying to, knows what corporations are and are not, and they don't "miss understand" planned obsolescence. Since nothing lasts forever, everything has a limited lifespan, known to the manufacturer and usually to the customer as well. A shovel has planned obsolescence. 

But, back to your post: I don’t think you understand 'planned obsolescence' in this situation. The nature of obsolescence in your shovel example is different. There is an important distinction to be made between the two. A shovel is a simple tool with a straightforward function, and its obsolescence usually comes from wear and tear rather than the deliberate removal of features or functions. In contrast, software and hardware often involve planned obsolescence, where features can be intentionally disabled or removed to encourage upgrades or new purchases, i.e., shelf life. This misunderstanding is why I made my initial observation.

If you are okay with manufacturers determining 'shelf life' without the 'wear and tear' of your example to compel you to upgrade, I see that as a problem.

Also, as a consumer (if you are not a manufacturer), it is not worth your time or in your best interest to act as the grammar police, while defending the manufacturer through superficially white-knighting for social brownie points. It distracts from the main point and relies on broad, reactionary generalizations.

Stabitha_Christie said:

Possum-us said:

What features are missing when using the intel macs?

Looks like Apple is feeling comfortable making even more brazen planned Stabitha_Christie said:

Possum-us said:

What features are missing when using the intel macs?

Looks like Apple is feeling comfortable making even more brazen planned obsolescence moves with their intel culling process.
Less plausible deniability and more straight up. I guess they figure not enough people to make noise to care.

What exactly was made obsolete?

 moves with their intel culling process.
Less plausible deniability and more straight up. I guess they figure not enough people to make noise to care.

What exactly was made obsolete?

Fidonet127 said:

DAalseth said:

Possum-us said:

What features are missing when using the intel macs?

Looks like Apple is feeling comfortable making even more brazen planned obsolescence moves with their intel culling process.
Less plausible deniability and more straight up. I guess they figure not enough people to make noise to care.

Exactly right. This is just a money grab.

The compatibility for Macs goes back as old as Mac Book Air and Mac mini from 2018, yet it says, "Mac with Apple silicon using macOS 11.4 or later" Those are not ASi Macs for the keyboard with numerical keypad. Trackpad is the same, except the OS requirements of, "Bluetooth-enabled Mac with OS X 10.11 or later." Mouse same Macs, "Bluetooth-enabled Mac with OS X 10.11 or later." Keyboard without the keypad is the same as with the keypad for requirements.