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nubus said:

25% of Services is Google paying Apple. That won't happen in 2025. Apple will have to grow Services by 33% to deliver the same revenue and far more to get the margin back. 

danox said:

manwithnoname said:

jeffharris said:

The UK is suffering greatly from the travesty and sheer idiocy of Brexit. 

Chasing Apple for isn’t worth the effort, apparently.

I notice how you seem to forget the artificial global shutdown of the world economy for a contrived virus! We in the UK are not suffering from Brexit but from not having leaders with vision, stamina, and balls like Trump. Stop whingeing about Brexit and maybe make Britain Great Again.

A lifelong bad businessman, a convicted felon, a tax cheat, woman hater and a supporter of Putin is a great man? Your standards are low.

gatorguy said:

Xed said:

foregoneconclusion said:

gatorguy said: Apple develops iOS for hardware, which they monetize to the tune of $Billions every year. It's not essential to apps except for the need to enable install and run on an Apple mobile device. With generally minor changes, the apps as a rule could run on top of any OS and in many cases do. What can't operate without iOS is an Apple mobile device, which is the reason the OS exists.

Other way around: Apple develops the hardware to run the software. Operating systems are obviously the highest bar to clear when it comes to development and commercial viability. Apps are a dime a dozen by comparison. There's a reason that the EU considers the mobile OS market to be a duopoly: no one else has succeeded at that type of software product to any significant degree. Thousands of companies succeed with apps. Apple is doing the heavy lift commercially, not Epic or Spotify. 

Maybe Gatorguy hasn't seen this quote before...

Cute saying, but not particularly true with photo processing programs, accounting software, graphic design, engineering design programs, and a plethora of other software uses that doesn't require the provider create their own computer for the programming to work properly.

Apple's goal from the beginning was inventing consumer hardware devices. Having a software system capable of operating a smartphone or tablet was a necessary sub-development, not the goal. It's in hardware that ongoing iOS development is monetized. If there were no Apple hardware to run it, the OS would have zero value unless they go the Microsoft route and license it to computer or smartphone manufacturers for their own hardware. 

Anyway, I'm sure when that slide was presented it was relevant to that particular discussion. It doesn't make it applicable here.