MacPro

22july2013 said:

> "For reasons passing understanding, he points at his coffee mug as proof."

Can anyone explain the coffee mug reference? I'm a techie and I didn't get the joke.

avon b7 said:

MacPro said:

avon b7 said:

danox said:

We shall see I anticipate Apple will temporarily use OpenAI like they used Google for Maps until they get their version online.......Note the Google geeks are still up in arms about it like many in tech are still mad about Apple dumping Intel keeping AMD and Nvidia at arms length with their SOC designs.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/1cwdlak/notebookcheck_apple_m4_soc_analysis_amd_intel_and/ Geek Meltdown  

I suppose that is a tacit admission that you accept Apple is behind here. 

If you think Apple, two years after the buzz around this subject hit the mainstream, will still have to 'temporarily' use a competitor's solution, then it doesn't look great. 

Most people up to now have simply pointed to the painfully obvious fact that Apple has been behind because it had no competing solution. 

It was always unwise to counterargue that it wasn't behind and pointing to the future. 

Those competitors also have a future and are moving very, very fast. 

We just don't know what will be announced next month and also have no idea when it will reach Apple users. I suppose we are realistically looking at year end.

The question then will be 'in what state?' Beta? Fully baked? Fully baked but limited? Will they try to monetise it? If so, to what degree.

If you have the possibility of integrating someone else's solution, it's nice to have those options while you work on your own. Some people will have problem with that. 

I very much doubt Apple even considered going another year without these options, so at some point over these last two years someone probably said it's time to pivot the ship to AI. Late but better late than never. 

At this point, it's clear to me that Apple got caught off guard with this. 

Better to accept that, move on and look forward to having those options available at system level. 

This isn't about being 'behind' it's about 'how' and 'when' to have the best results and long-term benefits to Apple and the billions of Apple device users.  Not about 'I got there. First, I have a website where people using computer products can play.'

Oh no. I am fully aware of what's out there and have commented on it many, many times here. Just do a search here on my posts with Ascend, Mindspore, Cann or Pangu etc.

The difference over the last two years has been how quickly some solutions have reached 'userland' (directly or indirectly) with little to no effort on the user's part and how blazingly fast those solutions have evolved.

When things like Sora get a universal release it will have to come with some very tight reigns. 

End users won't be interested in running weather prediction models or models for pharmaceutical research. They don't need to know about NLP, NLU, NLG even though they are touched by it every day. 

But when AI solutions using these models are used daily from within universal apps like WhatsApp and use natural language etc to interact, that is where a lot of the buzz has been over the last two years. 

A buzz that, with hindsight, Apple probably amplified by refusing to even utter the words when the spotlight fell on it. 

Being behind is a statement of fact. No more. No less. 

Strategically, Apple got caught short. What comes next is anybody's guess but this article points to 'outside' solutions. I'm saying that shouldn't be a issue for anyone but obviously some of those who have claimed Apple isn't behind will have issues with it.

If the Flintstones had access to these options, no doubt Siri would be a good fit for the times and it doesn't surprise me that its due for a huge AI overhaul (according to rumours). However, one of Apple's main Siri issues seems to be that there isn't one Siri for all devices but multiple Siris, all performing differently. 

Massiveattack87 said:

So Siri is so stupid to be fixed internally by Apple or the reverse. 

What does this cooperation mean? Is it cloud-based AI or on device AI? 

Will OpenAI get the access to user data?

gatorguy said:

danox said:

We shall see I anticipate Apple will temporarily use OpenAI like they used Google for Maps until they get their version online.......Note the Google geeks are still up in arms about it like many in tech are still mad about Apple dumping Intel keeping AMD and Nvidia at arms length with their SOC designs.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/1cwdlak/notebookcheck_apple_m4_soc_analysis_amd_intel_and/ Geek Meltdown  

Ahh, the Qualcomm is doomed, Intel is doomed discussion.