MacPro

Adobe CC minor issue after running High Sierra.

After running 10.12 on my new Mac Pro with a clone of the boot drive and a clone of my external data disks (i.e. identical set up to my usual Sierra one) I encounter no issues other those I expected such as Little Snitch.  All my applications ran fine.  

However after a few days I retuned to my normal internal boot and data to do some work.  On launching PS CC Adobe CC told me my applications had to be uninstalled and reinstalled.  I checked and the error showed that Adobe had changed privileges on  /Library/Applications Support/ AdobeAdobePCD.  I checked the flags but could see no obvious changes and I was in a hurry I followed the instructions to uninstall and reinstall all my CC applications.  All was well after that.  

The other thing that was strange but good was I had played extensively with the new Photos in High Sierra and made lots of changes to such things as People and who was a favorite and Memory etc.  These changes instantly were seen on other Macs running High Sierra logged in as me too.  Which was great.  I half expected to face a mess going back to Sierra but no, none of the changes were there and all was as it had been prior to running High Sierra.  Apple have obviously kept the databases distinct making the ability to migrate some but not all your macs possible without Photo on the cloud conflicts.  Nice touch.

Metriacanthosaurus said:

I had an iMac with a 1TB Fusion Drive + Boot Camp, and opting in to APFS during install killed my drive. Had to reformat, rebuild the Fusion Drive in terminal, and reinstall from Time Machine backup.

Updated again without opting in to APFS, and its fine.

So, I don't recommend anyone with Fusion Drive or Boot Camp partition even attempt APFS unless you know how to recover from a total data loss.

It's a known issue that some 3TB Fusion macs 'may' have issue with Boot Camp under APFS, I've not heard mention of a 1 TB Fusion either way.  My best advice is keep Windows on a separate bootable SSD entirely and not use the partition method.  

tenthousandthings said:

lkrupp said:

Is the conversion to APFS automatic or does it require user action? To wit, I currently have a late 2013 iMac 14,2 with a 1TB Fusion drive running Sierra on HFS+. What happens when I install High Sierra on this machine?

The conversion is a "nondestructive in-place upgrade" if that's what you mean. [You can from HFS+ to APFS without losing your data, but you can't go back.]

I think it will probably be "automatic" for boot volumes, but that's only because I haven't heard otherwise -- I think if they were going to allow it to be a choice (and thus allow High Sierra to boot from HFS+), we would know that.

It is not automatic on a boot volume. You can install and boot from High Sierra on HFS+.  The install and 'covert to APFS in place' is an option, it is nondestructive so easily done over a clone of your Sierra drive (Or the real thing but make a back up clone first!).  You can also do a post installation non-destructive conversion from HFS+ to APFS after the fact by booting into the High Sierra Recover Volume an d using Disk Utilities .  I have done all of the above so not guessing.  Indeed you can do additional installations over the top from the recovery partition.  On one Mac I had a few issues such as Maps displaying garbage.  I reinstalled again and it cured it.  That particular Mac was a test onto HFS+ not APFS but not sure if that is coincidence or just a glitched installation in the first place.  Remember Carbon Copy Cloner is your friend in all this!

schlack said:

I have a (spare) 2010 13" MBP that's still stock config (4GB RAM/250GB HDD) and is actually pretty fast running Sierra. The idea that in 2018 it may even run faster under High Sierra is quite amazing. When I was a kid, computers felt significantly outdated after 2-3 years.

I've got great news for you!  My old test machine is a 2010 MBP i7 15" (I also use modern macs of course) with one simple mod, I have removed the slow HDD and installed a 500GB SSD and I removed the optical (simply for weight as it was redundant anyway). Guess what?  It's been running High Sierra since the moment it was available to developers.  It has been flawless.  I made sure I also converted to APFS at time of installation, this over the existing Sierra with all the apps.  Very stable and no issues at all.

Word of warning to anyone installing 10.13 betas, developer or soon to be released public versions ... make sure you have a clone of your Photos Library safely made before launching Photos in High Sierra.  It's a one way conversion to the Library.  Once converted in 10.13 it won't open if you boot back into 10.12.  Of course only install on a clone of your boot drive to start with but that goes without saying.  The data on the cloud isn't effected from what I can tell only your local main 'System Library'  However I am inclined to not set the 10.13 Photo Library as System Library and keep it isolated for the time being till I learn more so as not to risk anything!