sandor

StrangeDays said:

KosiWahala said:

rotateleftbyte said:

MacPro said:

Only one card slot?  Seriously?  

Got to say I am very happy with my Sony A7 III which works really well with all my Canon L lenses thanks to the Metabones V in advanced mode.  Canon cannot be far behind with a Sony copy like this from Nikon.  I hope Canon allow two cards!

I have two card slots on my D500 (XQD and SD). I only ever use one at a time.
These cameras also have USB-C so connecting them to a Mac or PC and downloading the images will be very quick AND it will charge the camera at the same time.
You can get XQD cards of over 200Gb already. That is an awful lot of shots and many hours of Video.
I don't see much of a problem myself but obviously, YMMV

It’s just crazy to shoot an event, such as a wedding, using a camera with only one card slot. Cards fail more often than you might think. To not have a second slot for backing up your shots is just asking for trouble. I don’t believe any camera, with a single card slot, merits the classification of “professional.”

What were we then in the days before dual card slots?

chasm said:

The "cheese grater" Mac Pro was indeed a tough, dependable (at least in some incarnations) and workhorse Mac, but "best ever" is a very loaded term. "Not for my mother it wasn't" would be my snap reply, and not really for me, either. My nomination for the best Mac ever would be -- actually -- the highly-upgradeable and dependable computer I'm typing this on, a 2012 MacBook Pro.

This model had USB 3.0 before that had really gone mainstream, Bluetooth 4.0 before that went mainstream, Thunderbolt (okay, v1, but still -- faster than any other connector at the time and still faster than everything but some USB-C varieties and later Thunderbolts), and the option of a retina display. Swap out the old HD for SSD and max out the ram to 16GB, and you have in 2018 a machine that isn't out-of-date for 90+ percent of the things typical users really use it for. All this and an SD card slot, booya!

Mike Wuerthele said:

sandor said:

Mike Wuerthele said:

sandor said:

Mike Wuerthele said:

deminsd said:

foregoneconclusion said:

The difference between the cheese grater Mac Pro and the contemporary iMac is mainly internal vs. external expansion, not general expansion. I owned a 2009 Mac Pro and updated the RAM, drive space, boot drive, GPU, and added USB 3.0 support via a 3rd party card. However, I eventually had to move on from the Mac Pro because the old motherboard bottlenecked the GPU, and the WiFi and bluetooth standards were too old and also too problematic to try and update relative to the OS. Bottom line: the 2017 5K iMac that I bought as a replacement can expand in all the same areas as the Mac Pro, with the exception of adding a card internally for USB upgrades. Again, the main difference is whether or not the expansion is handled internally or externally, not whether it's supported at all.

Can't upgrade the GPU in the iMac, which is one of the main reasons the old Mac Pro is still coveted today.  Drives?  Sure, external, but if you want RAID of 4 drives, not as cheap as just sliding in 4 drives.  Upgrade CPU(s) like in the Mac Pro?  Nope.  With the iMac, everything is external.  So while it's possible, it's not the same as the Mac Pro.

The process to replace the processor in the iMac Pro is no less or more of a pain in the ass than the Mac Pro cheese grater.

To be very, very clear. Apple has never endorsed CPU replacements, even if they were possible.

Mike, that comment makes it seem like you have never removed the CPU tray from a cheese grater. Apple literally has instructions on how to do it.

Incomparably easier than an iMac:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205043#1

(yes, Apple has never endorsed them, yes, they are completely possible. http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems.html )

This isn't a CPU replacement. This is a tray replacement. The heat sink removal procedure with the long-handled Torx, the un-lidded processors on the 4,1, and the temperature sensor cable is a pain.

Yeah, I know they're possible. The point of the remark was that not everything can get a processor swap. Many iMacs can't, for instance.

Regarding the procedure, I stopped counting at 10 Mac Pro processor pair swaps and had a whole series about upgrading the 3,1 through 5,1 at another venue. And, I've done it three times on an iMac Pro, so I'm pretty sure I'm qualified to comment.

You said that CPU replacement in the iMac Pro was no more or less of a pain in the ass than the Mac Pro cheese grater. 

It is simply not true.

Access to the CPU is the hurdle in the iMac Pro, not in the Mac Pro. *That* is why the 4 "clips" and single pull-out tray is about.

Yeah, i do miss the ZIF G3 233 mhz processor that i was able to drop in upgrades for, but the cheese graters arent much more difficult considering the extra heat dissipation necessary. And access to the CPU is far easier.

I understand where you're coming from, but I think you're glossing over lidless processors, bluloc-seized screws, and a few other factors.

Out of curiosity, have you done an iMac Pro CPU replacement? The screen removal isn't terrible if you don't rush it.

Mike Wuerthele said:

sandor said:

Mike Wuerthele said:

deminsd said:

foregoneconclusion said:

The difference between the cheese grater Mac Pro and the contemporary iMac is mainly internal vs. external expansion, not general expansion. I owned a 2009 Mac Pro and updated the RAM, drive space, boot drive, GPU, and added USB 3.0 support via a 3rd party card. However, I eventually had to move on from the Mac Pro because the old motherboard bottlenecked the GPU, and the WiFi and bluetooth standards were too old and also too problematic to try and update relative to the OS. Bottom line: the 2017 5K iMac that I bought as a replacement can expand in all the same areas as the Mac Pro, with the exception of adding a card internally for USB upgrades. Again, the main difference is whether or not the expansion is handled internally or externally, not whether it's supported at all.

Can't upgrade the GPU in the iMac, which is one of the main reasons the old Mac Pro is still coveted today.  Drives?  Sure, external, but if you want RAID of 4 drives, not as cheap as just sliding in 4 drives.  Upgrade CPU(s) like in the Mac Pro?  Nope.  With the iMac, everything is external.  So while it's possible, it's not the same as the Mac Pro.

The process to replace the processor in the iMac Pro is no less or more of a pain in the ass than the Mac Pro cheese grater.

To be very, very clear. Apple has never endorsed CPU replacements, even if they were possible.

Mike, that comment makes it seem like you have never removed the CPU tray from a cheese grater. Apple literally has instructions on how to do it.

Incomparably easier than an iMac:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205043#1

(yes, Apple has never endorsed them, yes, they are completely possible. http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems.html )

This isn't a CPU replacement. This is a tray replacement. The heat sink removal procedure with the long-handled Torx, the un-lidded processors on the 4,1, and the temperature sensor cable is a pain.

Yeah, I know they're possible. The point of the remark was that not everything can get a processor swap. Many iMacs can't, for instance.

Regarding the procedure, I stopped counting at 10 Mac Pro processor pair swaps and had a whole series about upgrading the 3,1 through 5,1 at another venue. And, I've done it three times on an iMac Pro, so I'm pretty sure I'm qualified to comment.

Mike Wuerthele said:

deminsd said:

foregoneconclusion said:

The difference between the cheese grater Mac Pro and the contemporary iMac is mainly internal vs. external expansion, not general expansion. I owned a 2009 Mac Pro and updated the RAM, drive space, boot drive, GPU, and added USB 3.0 support via a 3rd party card. However, I eventually had to move on from the Mac Pro because the old motherboard bottlenecked the GPU, and the WiFi and bluetooth standards were too old and also too problematic to try and update relative to the OS. Bottom line: the 2017 5K iMac that I bought as a replacement can expand in all the same areas as the Mac Pro, with the exception of adding a card internally for USB upgrades. Again, the main difference is whether or not the expansion is handled internally or externally, not whether it's supported at all.

Can't upgrade the GPU in the iMac, which is one of the main reasons the old Mac Pro is still coveted today.  Drives?  Sure, external, but if you want RAID of 4 drives, not as cheap as just sliding in 4 drives.  Upgrade CPU(s) like in the Mac Pro?  Nope.  With the iMac, everything is external.  So while it's possible, it's not the same as the Mac Pro.

The process to replace the processor in the iMac Pro is no less or more of a pain in the ass than the Mac Pro cheese grater.

To be very, very clear. Apple has never endorsed CPU replacements, even if they were possible.